4th MP tournament (or should that be 2nd?)

[Gramphos]

As it is right now weekdays is not an option for me. I'm mostly at university from 8 in the morning to 7 in the evening local time. (today is an execption, and I'll not go until in a few minutes )

[Gramphos]

Oh, and BTW, cancel my time for today. I figured I'm out of milk again, so I need the evening for shoping.

[sabrewolf]

as i wrote a few posts above, this weekend is impossible for me because i'm moving house.

sorry...

[Snotty]

If my friend cannot find the cd by tomorrow morning I will be buying a new one. Im free most of sat, although sat night will probably be busy. Sunday I will be around, but have stuff to do. If I manage to get everything done then I will post my availability.

[Gramphos]

If nothing is schudled for me by tomowwor morning I'll spend the day at university, meaning no game for me.

[notyoueither]

I'd like to hear from F-P, but I will post and PM again this evening my time one way or the other.

[Fried-Psitalon]

I can be free Saturday evening from 6 EST until some obscene hour after which you SP weenies pass out and I grab my 10th mountain dew.

::grins evilly and lobs another few SP barbs in for good measure::

See you Saturday night.

[notyoueither]

OK, looks like Snotty should meet up with Gramphos Saturday if possible and Sunday if needed. Maybe you two should trade PMs or posts here with a view towards a meeting in the evening if Snotty can do that, so that Gramphos can get some work done at school during the day.

I will endeavour to teach F-P some manners.

[notyoueither]

Conceded the game to F-P after about 3 hours in game after the capital fell to knights and his gf arrived home.

My Egyptians did not do too well in adjusting to the probes of the Chasqui Scouts early and the lack of iron and horses later against horsemen. A reserve of archers did finally win some glory for Pharaoh, but at a very late date... too late to really turn the tide.

A slow turn clock took a bit of getting used to, but it is quite manageable. Hopefully I will do better next time.

[Gramphos]

I'm home today. if anyone wants to start a game try to message me over ICQ if I'm online.

[Gramphos]

I'm currently playing against F-P. And so far F-P has effectivly stopped me from getting iron. (Very good play from his side (or bad by me ))

[Gramphos]

F-P won the game since I had niether horses nor iron. However, I had the best start, and should have epanded more to the southbefore F-P could get there by boat and block the great terrain to two iron deposits, and two horses as well as wines and furs. Which togeteher with the spice and dyes I had in my Capital radius would have made me very strong.

A great game. F-P was better than me and saw my weakness (or what would have been the end of him if I had expanded a little faster)

[Gramphos]

Look at this great starting position. This was the third try at starting (first crashed and second F-P had an unplayable start)

I had quite good starts all these three times, so I guess the RNG wanted to be nice to me today.

At the end of the game my Capital were pumping out one spearman (yes, like I said I had no resources) each turn, but it wasn't ennough to stand up against the Medieval infantry and nightst of F-P playing as Inca.

He used his scout wisely and found out that my closest Iron were 13 tiles away from me, quite close to the closest horses.

Also the only way to get there were over my territory. Once F-P figured this out (before me since I didn't explore mush further south than the iron (due to barbarian activity that killed my warraiors I explored with)) he must have focused on getting MapMaking and get a stack of archers over to my spearman guarding the iron, kinning it and then found a city on that iron.

F-P also had contact with both the arabs and babylonians, while I only had contact with the Babylonians (and at first with nobody) which meant that he could advance faster than me in the tech tree in the beginnng, and I got stuck at the bottom of the tech race.

[notyoueither]

Yep, F-P is a bit of a bother with those scouts and then 'choking' his opponent. REXing towards resources becomes a priority that cannot be ignored (as it should be against human).

He's getting a lot of good fortune with the map generator though, seeing as our game had iron about 10 tiles from my capital and on the wrong side of a jungle. Horses were a bit further out of my reach even though they were closer... stupid Zulu. Although I could have done a much better job of getting there to secure the iron and then taking the horses from the Zulu.

How bad was his first start?

[Fried-Psitalon]

I'm not sure you'd call that game's map "good fortune" for me - I had a huge jungle east and west, plains north - and Babylon and Arabia both immediately in my face. Gram had a large area with a small bottleneck, and a huge peninsula south of him. Respectfully, the starting conditions were such that he should have triumphed - he was outplayed. In your game more aggressive early expansion to the south and sentries would've allowed you to respond more quickly to my actions and secure the resources I was working to deny you. You may have had jungle north, but you had lovely land south. There's a lot more to MP than I think is being appreciated, particularly in the tactics department - it was definitely tactics and not building that won me the game against Gramphos.

My first start - the unplayable - was 10 tiles of grass (no rivers) and 5 of tundra in my immediate area at the extreme southern end of a peninsula - north was a 6 deep 3 wide marsh, with the mayan AI immediately on the other side of the marsh and no area for me to "Sneak by" in - his capital radius straddled the exit to the marsh entirely.