PATCH v1.21f bugs and issues.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Is it just me, or does anybody else find the 1.21 patch won't download properly from the site in the first place? I'm using a 56k modem, so I have the Download Acceleration Program help me in case I get cut off.

Well, the DAP downloads all 8.some ugly megabytes of the patch, and then claims there was some error in combining the different parts. Next thing I know, the .exe file is only 6.some MB large. Upon resuming the download, the patch size has shrunk to 2.some MB.

What's going on? I know this is a true newbie question but since that's precisely what I am to Civ3 I think it's rather apt.

hi ,

the best is to download it from www.firaxis.com , turn off your antivirus or firewall to be sure , .....close other open windows from your browser that you done need , and it should go , if not , tell so , ......

have a nice day , and good luck on the download , ...

[Alinestra Covelia]

Thanks for the help, but a few more things.

1. My university dorm doesn't have a broadband connection, otherwise I'd definitely get one! So I'm stuck with 56k modem sadly

2. I was downloading it from Firaxis in the first place, which is why I'm so surprised that it won't download properly.

Has this happened to anybody else? Does anybody know of any good mirror sites so I can get the patch?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Thanks for the help, but a few more things.

1. My university dorm doesn't have a broadband connection, otherwise I'd definitely get one! So I'm stuck with 56k modem sadly

2. I was downloading it from Firaxis in the first place, which is why I'm so surprised that it won't download properly.

Has this happened to anybody else? Does anybody know of any good mirror sites so I can get the patch?

hi ,

try "www.apolyton.com" , .......

have a nice day

[Willem]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Thanks for the help, but a few more things.

1. My university dorm doesn't have a broadband connection, otherwise I'd definitely get one! So I'm stuck with 56k modem sadly

2. I was downloading it from Firaxis in the first place, which is why I'm so surprised that it won't download properly.

Has this happened to anybody else? Does anybody know of any good mirror sites so I can get the patch?

Try downloading it without that program you mentioned. It sounds to me that's where your problem is.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Well, I got the patch and it has changed the game .exe so it now refuses to recognize my Civ3 CD-ROM. This means I can't play the game.

Any ideas on how to unpatch the game?

My CD-ROM was bought in Beijing and I'm pretty convinced it's not a pirate release, as it came with proper packaging, instruction manual (in Mandarin), and even changed the Chinese leader animations from Mao Zedong to LiShiMin.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Well, I got the patch and it has changed the game .exe so it now refuses to recognize my Civ3 CD-ROM. This means I can't play the game.

Any ideas on how to unpatch the game?

My CD-ROM was bought in Beijing and I'm pretty convinced it's not a pirate release, as it came with proper packaging, instruction manual (in Mandarin), and even changed the Chinese leader animations from Mao Zedong to LiShiMin.

If you contact Infrogames, they can provide you with sub-routine that allows you to play without the CD.

So you can read Mandarin? And does that mean that Mao is falling out of favour in Chinese society? Changing his graphic would have been unthinkable not so long.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Well, I got the patch and it has changed the game .exe so it now refuses to recognize my Civ3 CD-ROM. This means I can't play the game.

Any ideas on how to unpatch the game?

My CD-ROM was bought in Beijing and I'm pretty convinced it's not a pirate release, as it came with proper packaging, instruction manual (in Mandarin), and even changed the Chinese leader animations from Mao Zedong to LiShiMin.

hi ,

well delete all the files , manually , search for stuff like civ , civilzation , infogrames , firaxis , dont forget the maps in the documants folder , .....reboot , ....install again , get patch 1.21 , and problem's fixed , ....

have a nice day

[Alinestra Covelia]

Thanks for the tips. I'll get to Firaxis and ask them nicely for the subroutine. Or maybe I'll just reinstall the whole thing and play on an older (1.07) version.

As for the lack of Mao in the game, I have a suspicion that my copy of Civ3 may have originated from Taiwan. Last time I went to Taiwan, they were selling pirate copies of the original (Mao Tse Tung) Civ3 game, but legit copies of a Taiwan-Chinese, non-Mao computer game Civ3 as well. Of course, many Taiwan people would not be happy at the prospect of having Mao represent the Chinese race (which they consider themselves to be part of, though will have little to do with the present government).

My copy has no Mao, but there are a few little touches which make me suspect it has also been altered by the Chinese.

For a start, the Civilopedia entry for a certain government form begins:

"Communism is a good form of government in which [...]" and I don't think the Taiwanese design houses would have much cause to put that in the game.

I am trying to get a graphics program installed so I can post up a few screenshots of the new Chinese leader, Li Shi Min (the founder of the Tang dynasty). It does look pretty convincing...

And in answer to your Mandarin question, yes I can read Mandarin, but only the simplified characters, and only haltingly at best. I'm currently in Beijing studying the language and the people.

As far as Mao is concerned, the younger people in China tend not to be too passionate about him, either as a hero or a villain. The older generations still have a lot of respect for him, sometimes bordering on hero-worship. My driver once got into a fight with his father for criticizing the Cultural Revolution (he lost the fight too).

[falsfire3401]

I have so far only started two new games on the 1.21 patch. One game as the Japanese, standard map, pangaea, Regent, max civs (7 rivals). Luxuries seemed a teency bit light, but resources were fine. All I had to do was invade my neighbour France and take all but one backwater town, and then I had 3 luxury resources (local) to me.

In the second game, I'm playing the Russians on a Huge map pangaea, with only 8 rivals, Regent diff. In this game, luxury resources are extremely scarce. The closest one to my capitol ended up being furs, ~25 tiles away to the west. I now have a remote highly-corrupt but well defended town on that resource, plus another deep in the northern jungle parked on the gems tile. I'm *still* building the road to that town, it must be about 40 tiles away (almost into the German territory to the north). Resources are also scarce. I have one horse resource within ten tiles of my capitol, but the nearest iron is also way up in the mountains near the gems town in the northern jungle. I hate running highly-corrupt border towns a-way out there like that (I don't use colonies b/c they can get assimilated by a rivals borders, a town has to undergo a culture-flip and a size 2 town with 8 defenders just ain't gonna flip, unless you get REAL bad luck)

[Timely Chicken]

I got the refusal to recognize CD in the CDROM too, but I have two of them installed. Swapped the CD to the other one and its fine now.

One odd thing happened today. I think it was a fluke. The year is 1590, I am the most advanced civ in the game (I played a warlord just so I could win one). I have knights as my most advanced mounted unit. I suddenly get the message "The babylonians have added a part to their space ship."

What the...?

I trounced the Babylonians and when I killed their capital (before espionage, so I couldn't check otherwise) I got the message "We have destroyed the Babylonian space ship."

No idea how they stick wielders managed to make a spaceship part unless they stumbled on a hut somewhere that for some reason gave them one.

It never happened again or before.

[Deathwalker]

If a hut gave them the tech to build a spaceship part. The AI would instantley build that part

[Willem]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
If a hut gave them the tech to build a spaceship part. The AI would instantley build that part

You don't get free techs from huts after the Ancient Era.

[Mad_Hatter13x]

Ive taken over my continent, no problem. The first civilization i beat out were the romans, way back in the beginning of the mideival time. Im in the modern era, and all of a sudden, a roman galley shows up on my coast, what the F@#%. Thats a flaw, they STILL need to fix.


Mad Hatter

[Panag]

Originally posted by Willem


You don't get free techs from huts after the Ancient Era.

hi ,

, that should be in the editor , to decide until what era the huts count , ......

have a nice day

[Willem]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

, that should be in the editor , to decide until what era the huts count , ......

have a nice day

I think it's just fine as it is frankly. If an Expansionist civ could get free techs in more than the ancient era, it would be so far ahead of all the rest, the other civs wouldn't stand a chance.