Illegal is illegal, and not legal!

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Ozymandous
Gee, maybe because of people DLing the game is why they AREN'T releasing it everywhere?!? Ever think of that?

Erm, that doesnt even make sense. How can it possibly help them increase sales by denying the majority of the world the option of buying the game?!? This can only promote DLing, until they get there act together and realise there are other people in the world.

[Sava]

If I wasn't restricted with my 56k, I'd be DLing it right now. I just care about getting it faster, if I have to pay 50 bucks but can have it right now, I'll buy it. But if I could download it first, I'd do that. Online software distribution would get rid of a lot of WAREZ.

[Robert]

people are downloading it already
WHERE ? I WANT IT NOW

I've been surfing through billions of pop ups and porn adds, but no civ3

[BeBMan]

Hm, I didn´t know that posting the pdf manual is illegal - I don´t support piracy.

I hope I can buy a US Version here in Germany in the next days...

[cort]

Re: Illegal is illegal, and not legal!

Originally posted by Rasbelin
Civ III is out and so is all the illegal stuff related
to the game. So I think it's good to remind
three things.

1. Buying or dowloading an illegal copy of
Civ III is strictly forbidden by law.

2. Making copies of an authentic copy
of the game is also forbidden, unless
your local laws allow that. In Finland you're
allowed to make "a few copies" (2-3) for
your own personal use and your closest relatives
(like mum, dad, siblings,...).

3. Spreading the handbook as a PDF document
is also forbidden, unless you have the permission
of the copyright holder (in this case Infogrames).

1. just because we are not living in the US, we are treated as second class citizens. if they had started to sell it all over the world at the same time, most people wouldnot bother about obtaining private copies.. do not blame individuals, this is the market, you cannot dictate them what to do and what not to do. basic economics knowledge.
2. spreading the manual cannot be illegal. a manual is totally useless, if you donot have the game, so there is nothing wrong with it.

[Wexu]

Originally posted by Ozymandous


Gee, maybe because of people DLing the game is why they AREN'T releasing it everywhere?!? Ever think of that?

Obviously not.

LOL

You're one bright guy..

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Ozymandous
Gee, maybe because of people DLing the game is why they AREN'T releasing it everywhere?!? Ever think of that?

Obviously not.

Youdo know that it is total nonsense you're telling there. It's the opposite; Because they don't release it worldwide people will try to download it. If they DID release it worldwide most people would buy the game instead of downloading it...If the stores nearby had the game bynow it wouldn't make any sense for me to download the game now, knowing that I'll buy the game later today

Worldwide release would defently make piracy go down, cuz many people say: "the game just has been released and I want to play it now like the Americans, so I will download a warez copy". when the game arrives many will people say: "I got the game now, so why waste money buying the game"...I don't do it that way, but I know a lot of people who does it that way...

WorldWide release rulez

[Earthling7]

Whatever happened to globalization anyway? Only when it benefits America?

If the game had been released yesterday, I would have bought it yesterday. It didn't, so I'm looking at se*y t**ns and who-knows-what, instead of playing the game. Thanks Infogrames.

[Mannamagnus]

I don't feel bad about downloading a warez copy of a game that I'm going to buy anyway. I only feel bad about not finding it anywhere among that sh!tty sex-crap. Godverdomme!

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Mannamagnus
I don't feel bad about downloading a warez copy of a game that I'm going to buy anyway. I only feel bad about not finding it anywhere among that sh!tty sex-crap. Godverdomme!

I know just how you feel...

[Sava]

It is quite a difficult task to get decent Warez over http format. mIRC is usually the place to go if you want Warez. Most FTP sites will let you download for free, but every once in a while you get those ratio homos who disconnect you after you upload... GAUD THAT SUCKS

Overall, piracy is probably bad for software sales, but if those didn't download the game, I doubt they would go out and buy it anyways. At least with piracy, you might get some fans. More fans is always good, even if some of them didn't pay for the game. Plus, I doubt Sid Meier would get anymore money if there was no piracy. Infogames would probably get that money. And they are an evil bastard company.

[Solver]

[Solver]

Faboba, yes. I admit I have pirated games and software before, but I won't pirate Civ 3, when it comes. I want to support Firaxis for making such a great game, and want to see Civ 4 in a couple of years, this is why I'll pay for Civ 3.
I think here Firaxis benefit from piracy. I play the warez version for two weeks, and buy the real one with eyes out of head.

[drake]

Civ3 test ring

Heres an idea.....One person with a cd burner and a photocopier gets the game, burns 50 cds, photocopies the documentation, sends them to friends for a small fee.

What do you warez people think of that? That gonna help firaxis too? After all, all the people who get the ripped cds are gonna go out and buy the real version afterwords right?

Point is...though some of you may be honest and will still buy the game after warezing it, there are many more who will not! To say that warez is helping any developer is so ridiculously ignorant. Pathetic in fact.

[Bakunine]

Yes yes yes yes. We're all rich guys from Finland who happen to have a law exonerating the acts everyone else is now supposed to feel guilty for.

L L

Actually i plan to pass the next two years travelling around the world to see if the half of the humanity that must survive with less than a dolar per day don't have warez copies or even some manuals. If i have time i plan also to see if they are dressing non original Nike t-shirts. Their only allowed to work 16 hours a day making them for me.

I am gonna buy the game anyway sooner or later.

But you know what i feel?

I feel that what infogrames deserved was that non USA citizens didn't bought even one single copy of the game.

If the USA alone is more important for their sellings than the rest of the all the world (sure this way their going to sell more copies in USA that all over the world, already talked with many europeans friends who when i ask: warez or original?, they say: what comes first to my HDD) then just make your deserved money in the USA.

Foot note: Actually the starter of this thread helped us that are looking for a warez copy. Just added more 4 or 5 people to ICQ that are looing for it. If i get it i will contact then all.