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  • #76
    Glad to hear you got my messages

    Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS


    there are a lot of messages sent askthecivteam that are just not suitable to print
    Moi?

    I'll send you a few more if you confirm multiplayer is out of the first release
    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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    • #77
      Tell you what, I'll do my best to get a couple more questions answered on the next edition..
      Hey thanks...I would appreciate that. You sure are catering to my wants of late (screenshots to be put up soon & now more questions to be answered).
      However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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      • #78
        i honestly don't see why Dan can't just tell us if MP is in or not right here right now.

        having a major piece of a game in questionable status is horrible.

        DON'T GIVE DEATAILS IF YOU CAN'T. AND IF YOU'RE GAGGED I HAVE A SYSTEM...

        IS MULTIPLAYER IN?

        or
        "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
        - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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        • #79
          I know I want to see a big . Until that time when I see either the or I don't care. Obviously, Firaxis isn't going to release any info on MP at this time and we need to give it a break.
          However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by UberKruX
            i honestly don't see why Dan can't just tell us if MP is in or not right here right now.
            He must have something more to update the site with, except trivia and the new screens promised.
            Creator of the Civ3MultiTool

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            • #81
              yes. i understand the pile of work dan has. and i understand that mark isn't allowed to release info. i just want a or a . i dont need any more than that.
              "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
              - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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              • #82
                How about this: Firaxis themselves are still not sure if it is going to be or ? Maybe, just maybe, they are working their asses off right now - knowing that the deadline is approaching fast - to try to make it , but can't promise anything at this time?

                Quite frankly, some of you are incredibly inpatient...
                Come on, give them a break!

                But yeah, I'm just a settler, so what do I know...

                Peace!
                -- Roland

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Rasputin
                  We are aksed to contact Firaxis direct via ASKthecivteam... I did that and got no repsonse at all, not even a "we are busy right now and will repsond later"
                  Same to me.
                  I've asked a question twice and did not even get an automated response back. Only absolute silence...

                  No more questions for the "ask the civ team" for me.

                  Edit (havind read the 2nd half of the tread now): Hmmm.. did not realize the number of mails could be that big. However, an automated reponse still would be fine.

                  Hey Dan , If I'ld put {tuckson} in the headline, you can pick out my questions easily to answer them?
                  Last edited by tuckson; September 18, 2001, 04:29.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Wiglaf

                    Had he been speaking from our standpoint, I doubt he'd direct us to Ask the Civ Team. It takes little guessing to figure out just what kind of response you'll get from them. Probably none.
                    This whole Mike thing is becoming bit irritating.

                    First this, If I were Sid, I'ld have called all my programmers around the table long ago and told them firm and clearly that the first one who 'ld say anything else then "ask the civ team" would lose his yearly bonuses (or whatever they get at Firaxis).

                    Second, don't you think that those guys at Firaxis could be as much as a Civ lovers as you and me and anyone here? I guess they too would like to discuss matters here because it's cool to be among people with the same interest. However they know too much so they have a problem (see point 1)

                    Mike has said all he could without getting arguments with his superiors I guess.

                    Too Mike B: Please stop answering questions and kick that MP support in the game. I guess it's the only way to shut the guys up?
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                    • #85
                      yes. i understand the pile of work dan has. and i understand that mark isn't allowed to release info. i just want a or a . i dont need any more than that.
                      I don't care how much work Dan has. Firaxis is NOT ready to release info on MP at this time. Even if Dan didn't have any work and could go on a long, extended vacation he wouldn't be able to release info on MP. We all tried our hardest to retrieve the answer on MP but we had no luck. Now it is time to just let Firaxis take their time (they are going to do so either way) on releasing MP info and have MP release talks die down for now.
                      However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                      • #86
                        I have read almost all responses to this thread now, and it keeps amazing me (no offense to anyone meant!) how much time we all have to occupy ourselves with these forums .

                        About the topic itself: I tend to agree with those who believe that Firaxis wants MP in the game but has experienced some difficulty to implement it the way they wanted it to be.

                        Being a programmer myself I understand how difficult it must be to announce a feature to the world, and then face the problems when its not feasible (within a given production time-frame).

                        So when they need more time to get it 'right', I can only applaud them for making the decision to hold it off the initial release. No one wants buggy software, and by using the extra time (and revenues that are brought in by the initial soft will provide) they can do it 'perfectly'. This never is a fun compromise, but often unavoidable. I'm sure no-one at Firaxis is happy that things turned out like this, but I have faith in them that they will fix this at a later stage.

                        That said, what is unfortunate tho, is the fact that its not announced officially (probably not until the game is being shipped). Whoever runs the PR dept at Firaxis should know by now that it would be a let down for alot of ppl who come to these forums.
                        But once it is known we would accept it. Especially if the message would tell us that a good MP addon would be created later.

                        And honestly, I'll give my right arm (ehh) anyday for a solid SP experience.. often MP is not really that great.. And hey, we aren't talking about Quake4 or any other typical MP FPS game .. its Civilisation 3.

                        Thanks for reading my opinion.

                        Have a good day (especially the Dev team of Firaxis)!

                        Aco

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                        • #87
                          ps who do we make the bribes out to?
                          You were one of those $1000 guys ?

                          So far Dan didn't earn any $, since we still don't know anything about MP

                          But hey, we would lose all the fun if we knew the answer !
                          Mystery is a great part of the fun I guess

                          thanks Dan !
                          We really appreciate the 25 new screens you're going to upload and the 20 questions that are going to be answered
                          (or am I pushing it over the limit now ?)

                          Cyber(notso)Shy
                          Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                          Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                          • #88
                            We really appreciate the 25 new screens you're going to upload and the 20 questions that are going to be answered
                            Well, I'll be accepting all "thank you's" for my great accomplishments. First I enticed Dan enough for him to say that he will put up more new screenshots soon, then I was able to have him say that he will try to get more "ask the civ team" questions answered. Bravo to me.
                            By the way thanks again, Dan
                            However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                            • #89
                              oh, whatever
                              saying 'thanks' doesn't cost me a dime thus there we go:

                              Thanks oh noble techwins for your effords !
                              Thanks CyberShy for starting this wonderful thread
                              Thanks Markos en Daniel (the quick one) for providing us with these wonderfull messageboards !
                              Thanks oh Ming for not deleting all these pathatic posts !
                              Thanks Microprose for Civilization !
                              Thanks Bryan Reynolds for Civilization II
                              Thanks Sid for the air we breath
                              Thanks Bill Gates for the wonderfull OS we use to play the game
                              Thanks George Bush for providing such a fine nation in wich we can play these games
                              Thanks to my father and my mother for giving birth to me !
                              Thanks to all the Firaxis team for putting multiplayer in the box so we can get it right out the box !
                              Thanks Mike for not sueing me for putting you into my sujbect line
                              Thanks Dan Magahaha (Mahaga ? to lazy to look it up) for providing us with all those hundreds of screenshots and answered questions (am I repeating ?)
                              Thanks to my girlfriend for playing out of the box mp games with me over our lan !
                              Thanks thanks thanks.

                              it's great to be thankfull !
                              Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                              Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by star mouse
                                I'm expecting the game to be released with hotseat multiplayer only. I'm hoping that other multiplayer options will be released as a downloadable extra when they are ready.
                                Hah... my chance to prove that I really am a SP addict.
                                What the heck is "hotseat"? And now I'm dealing with this stuff anyway, what's PBEM?
                                I've occasionally played games across the Internet, and played civ also across a lan. But hotseat and PBEM....?
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