My God!!!!!!!!!

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by CIA_Operative
From what the UN tells me Turkey
So far only 51 add any you think are missing

You left out Slovakia and Slovenia, plus Turkey is not part of Europe. Boy will "Roman" be upset when he returns to our boards in Sept. and find out you miss his country Slovakia. Maybe no one will tell him.
On the Turkey thing. The part of Turkey that is located in Europe is to small to be consider part of Europe.

[joseph1944]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Number of civs

Originally posted by Ribannah


I count 49, maybe I still overlooked a couple

Turkey(49)

Turkey is not Europe.
You missed Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan.

[shum00]

There were some concerns about Japan getting the entire Pacific to itself unless India steps in... I may be wrong, but wouldn't China be in the way as well?

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by shum00
There were some concerns about Japan getting the entire Pacific to itself unless India steps in... I may be wrong, but wouldn't China be in the way as well?

In Civ 2, on a world map, I cannot remember a game that included China and India going to sea and establishing a city SouthEast of the mainland. It seem the AI almost always stayed in Asia, Middle East or sometime they would sail to the America's and start a city there.
For what ever reason unless you the player said randon starting places, no AI civ would start in Australia, New Zealand, or Indonesia unless it was a replacement civ for one that was destroyed.
In fact can anyone remember an AI China building a city in Siberia
(Sibirshoye)?

[CIA_Operative]

Turkey is in Europe man don't you know that they are applying to the EU right now and yes i originally forgot Slovenia and Slovakia but then placed them in, in the next post so I really didn't forget.

[Grim Legacy]

I see little need for such a large map when the maximum number of players is still so limited.

I thought the biggest Civ2 custom maps were already huge. Guess I'll have to wait and see whether the '6x' does anything for me. :/

[Vrank Prins]

I only should like to play a bigger map if:
1 it is possible to make more cue's to "micromanage" the game and;
2 if (scouting !!) units (land and water) can move more quickly around the globe.
Otherwise things will get "a little" too tedious .

[Mannamagnus]

Turkey is in Europe man don't you know that they are applying to the EU right now and yes i originally forgot Slovenia and Slovakia but then placed them in, in the next post so I really didn't forget.

I've been in Turkey maybe a dozen of times and even though about ten percent of Turkey lies in Europe I can assure you that as far as culture and social issues are concerned Turkey is definitely not Europe.

Note: Before people accuse me of being anti-Turkish I must also remark that I've never come across more hospitable people than the Turkish.

[laurentius]

About the number of countries in Europe,

We should concentrate in the defination of "nation" or "country". What makes a country?
1) A people with
a) same standard language
b) cultural, ethnical, genetic? roots
c) state institutions, money, foreign policy, army etc
With these terms we can surely add the maltese order in Rome and I remember reading about this tiny man-made island in the English channel that had passports, money, stamps etc

[Footie Mad]

Originally posted by Mannamagnus


I can assure you that as far as culture and social issues are concerned Turkey is definitely not Europe.

I've been to Turkey as well and I agree that the culture is far from european but officially though, Turkey is european.

[Xuenay]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
What's the special unit for the "Ye Ole Apolyton Guys?"

Webmaster. It'll probably work similiarly to some of the special units in CtP.

[XarXo]

Originally posted by splangy
guys, didn't you hear?? you can have 16 civs on a map, jeff said it in the APOLITON interveiw! so if your the english you will meet the french germans etc.. real early , I honestly cant wait!!

He said that could be modified USAING THE EDITOR TOOLS, so, IS TRUE. THE GAME ALLOW 16 TRIBES AT THE SAME TIME!!!

[Scrooge]

Originally posted by UberKruX

... russia might have some very cold spots, the kind of places where you'd perfrer colonies over cities....

Right-on-the-button, ther're called gulags, you know...

[star mouse]

Regarding the 6 x maximum map size in CIV3, does anyone have a good idea as to the size of the city grid in CIV3? I have studied screenshots from the CIV3 site and it seems that the city grid is the same size, but with the culture borders being quite large it is possible that the grid could be larger. A 6 x map isn't so daunting if the cities are larger in CTP/CTP2 style.

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by Wille


I've been to Turkey as well and I agree that the culture is far from European but officially though, Turkey is European.

Sorry guys Turkey is in Asia. It has always been in Asia.
The very small part in Europe is only about 2 or 3%, look at a map. Turkey northern border and the Sea of Marmara separates Asia and Europe. Turkey border Iran, Iraq, Syria are they in Europe? They also border Armenia, Georgia, Bulgaria, and one more country, can anyone ans that question? A friend of mine was station (US Army) in Iran in the sixty. He has been to Turkey and Iraq and also told me the people of Turkey were great people. Also another 2 couple (Col. and Major General Retired USAF) (friend of ours) tour Turkey about 3 year ago during Christmas and said they had great time in Turkey.
Ref: Pictorial Atlas of the World by Ottenheimer