The Official Apolyton Pessimistic Civers Club (OfAPeCiClu): Now Accepting Applicants!

[Fidel]

Re: First club discussion?

Originally posted by H Tower
as one of the club's first discussion's i'd like to raise the subject of the sim golf chat that happened yesterday. did anyone else watch and were you as sickened as I was? Sid gave an example of an unhappy couple doing a round of golf, they're "discussion" turned from "i'm unhappy" to "lets start a baby tonight!" Maybe it is a good idea for firaxis to be doing two games at once... otherwise the sim golf programmers could be writing the advisor's comments

Wait, there wasn't anyone to spoil the idyllic chat and ask Sid about the OTHER GAME? I mean, all people at chat were actually interested in that silly little game for obnoxiously rich people who cannot really run and are unfit for any decent sport?

[MarkG]

the chat was moderated. even if someone asked that, it never reached sid....


oh yin, dan was not working on civ3.com yesterday, he was in the chat!!! :P

[H Tower]

LaRusso, the moderators at maxis were smart enough to screen all questions that were presented to sid, i sat in the chat room for an hour or so listening to sid talk about sim golf and spamming civ3 questions to the moderator in the hope one might slip through. alas, no luck, maybe firaxis will get a report about how many civ3 questions there were. i think i posted about 30 questions or so

[Fidel]

H Tower you simply rule!
I would have joined you, as an expert spammer, but the time difference is too big

[Grumbold]

Count me into the club. I think my posting style has made me a de facto member

[Robert]

Yin, eventhough you're a member of an unrealistic club,
I've made a cool avator for you !

You can use it freely if you want to !

[campmajor!]

I tried to get through to the sim chat, but I got timed out everytime I tried it....

I'm sorry Yin, but I consider myself more a realist than a pessimist, so I'll join the club of cyber shy. But I can relate to your motives.

[Jeje2]

Apolyton revenge ...

Yin take a look at: http://apolyton.net/about/.
The news about upcoming Apolyton third anniversary.

In the news we can read:

Our special feature will include ... a adults-only 3d game where you torture your virtual-Yin by forcing him to play SimGolf.... -MarkG

Now I just cann't wait to play it. OK, were did I put my driver?

Oh, I'll gladly join your club.

[Robert]

yeah, I read it :-D

I'm even thinking about the realistic club offering Yin a free simgolf game

[yin26]

Welcome to Jeje2 who actually offered to join before I even really decided to post about the club. What a champ!

campmajor!: No problem! Like I always say, balance is healthy. You and Cyber be Luke and we'll be Darth.

cyber: I'm not a "member" of an unrealistic club. I'm the president! Just remember you are part of the Evil Quadratic Equation. Your public trickery isn't fooling anybody. By the way, I wish you the best of luck with your club. Maybe in a week or so we can have a Smack Down?

Grumbold: Welcome! Yes, your posting style makes you a poster-boy for the club!

H Tower: This is exactly the kind of constructive (well, let the debate begin on this one! ) activities our club can undertake! No harm in asking legitimate questions about Civ 3 in the Sim Golf chat, right? I assume they were good questions, so it's too bad we couldn't get answers. I, LaRusso and many Civers thank you. By the way: "i'm unhappy" to "lets start a baby tonight!" almost made me puke. Even those **evil grin ** comments on the earlier screenshots made me unable to eat any form of meat for about 3 days.

TechWins: Great! I understand exactly what you are talking about, and I promise that if anybody starts posting negative, whiney stuff under the club's name, we'll talk to him and try to fix it fast. I really appreciate that you want to keep the tone positive, as do I. By the way, the date stamp used on the forum has to be some silly European thing, so I pointed that out.

[Slax]

I would like to be a member!

I've been a Civ III pessimist since way back when Civ III was announced, and later when The List was started. For me it was all the "Sid is God, and can do no wrong" attitude that pulled me to the pessimist side.

[yin26]

Welcome Slax! I look to you, a long-time pessimist, to lend some true leadership!

[yin26]

One More Turn! posted a great question that ALL our members should keep in mind:

Do I have to be pessimistic all of the time or is it ok to get excited and positive for a time when we do get some new information on the game? I am not sure that I can be completely grouchy about something that is supposed to entertain me.

My answer:

Of course we should all be happy about the good stuff! In fact, to ignore the good stuff would run counter to our club's vision, which is to HELP Civ 3's development. So when we see good stuff, we should offer genuine praise and positive feedback.

Please all remember ultimately we want GOOD results and should be openly happy when we see them since there's a chance we helped get them!

[Robert]

Yin, pherhaps this avator suits you more then the other one I offered to you.

I'll be a good enemy of you and offer you this gift

[yin26]

Just thought our guys should know what Cyber's Club posts as somehow different from us. Am I wrong in my replies in any way?

If you join this club we can fight together against:

- unbased pessimists
- blind optimists
- civ3 failures
- anti-civ hypes

None of our pessimism is or will be "unbased." Stuff like having NO information posted for weeks on end is quite real, you know, and should be mentioned in public.

Of course, we have no blind optimists.

"Civ3 failures"? I guess he means my 'review'? Most people understand it was meant to be constructive.

And of course, we won't condone anti-civ hype since we WANT Civ 3 to succeed!

But more important is what we stand for:

- Public applause if Firaxis reveales good information about civ3
- Constructive critisism in case we're not sure if something is good or not.
- Healthy contact with Firaxis in a polite human way
- civilization III

Umm, we already publically stated those same things. In other words, there IS no difference between us already, I hate to say.