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  • Immortal Beloved - Operational Planning

    Now that we are about to start up, I thought a new opeartional planning thread would be useful to discuss plans and tactics as this develops.

    I will start with two items.

    The first is - who makes the first attack. I originally thought it should be General Jon - being the team leader. But he should rightly accompany the army south. So I then thought it appropriate that it be one of the first two controllers - Eli or Diss. And as Diss is awol for a bit - the honor therefore falls to Eli the Enlightened Eliminator to taste the first Voxian victory in this game.

    Eat em raw, Eli!!!

    And the second point - and this may be what wins it for us folks - and we may need to decide how we might adjust our strategy. I have received a piece of info that has come very much third hand to us - but which I deem reliable. It was from a discussion long ago with a member of GS. And it tells us where their iron supply is.

    I have paraphrased it so the original source of info can not be identified.

    "It is to the east of the capital, on the coast, and near the northern border."

    Harry and Mo - this may be up to you.

    Last edited by Beta; April 8, 2003, 17:19.
    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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    Yes, Definately! I agree, Harry and Mo should cut their iron supply on the first turn of the war.
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    • #3
      I think we shouldnt publicly declare the war. This way they *might* not notice the death of the Warrior and the change of relations, thus earning us at least another turn.
      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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      • #4
        Eat em raw, Eli!!!


        /me yells his battle cry.

        Not in the face! Not in the face!

        Oops, wrong one.

        ATTAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!
        "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Eli
          I think we shouldnt publicly declare the war. This way they *might* not notice the death of the Warrior and the change of relations, thus earning us at least another turn.
          Do you think this would work?

          I am willing to try it.
          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wittlich
            Yes, Definately! I agree, Harry and Mo should cut their iron supply on the first turn of the war.
            Their first mission was to kill the warrior. Then they move to the mountains, while the galley picks up two more troops for insertion on the east coast.

            Besides - although we now have a rough idea where it is - we don't know exactly. I suspect - given the two iron sites we do know about - that it is on a mountain. Which would be a good a good thing - as it is not under a city.

            On the other hand - the advantage of surprise - and the ability to cut their iron supply quickly far outweighs the killing of a warrior.

            How do other feel about this?
            Last edited by Beta; April 8, 2003, 17:29.
            Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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            • #7
              I rather like to cut their iron supply than to take their warrior down. It's much more important. I cutting the iron fast is the way to go here...

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              • #8
                Do you think this would work?
                I am willing to try it.


                I wouldnt bet on it, but it's possible.
                "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                • #9
                  We need to decide whether we publicly decalre war - or whether we just lay quiet and see what happens,

                  If we do publicly declare, this is the proposed announcement:

                  Vox Public Announcement - Operation Immortal Beloved

                  These are solemn times.

                  While Vox Controli's attention has been focused on the settlement of the continent, the nation to our south, Gathering Storm, has used this window of opportunity to show aggression towards their one-time friends and neighbours of the north.

                  First it was trade pact pressures. Then a road being built towards us - but for what purpose? And then most recently - the final straw - GS observer warriors moving off of their negotiated positions to cut key road links within Vox. A prelude to invasion?

                  These transgressions will not be allowed to continue. The Voxian senate immediately called an emergency session to deal with this new and unexpected threat. The vote was unanimous.

                  Vox Controli declares war on Gathering Storm.

                  Operation Immortal Beloved is launched.

                  (From the One Book)

                  Psalm 19

                  Then there were Immortals,
                  And the nation of Vox Controli, whole.
                  Our enemy will feel the might,
                  May the One have mercy on their soul.
                  Last edited by Beta; April 8, 2003, 18:32.
                  Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                  • #10
                    First, I must say your letter is a great declaration of war, it would be a shame to waste it. I don't think GS will not notice they're at war with us... They are experienced players and are quite attentive to what goes on in a game...

                    They will even get a popup saying :"Vox Controli has declared war on you!" This can't easily be overlooked...

                    I don't think it will work, but I'll go with the rest of the team and support the chosen option...

                    --Kon--
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                    • #11
                      "It is to the east of the capital, on the coast, and near the northern border."

                      Harry and Mo - this may be up to you.
                      This follows with my thoughts in other threads about making sure we cover both sets of mountains. Harry and Mo will need backup. You know they will mass forces to get the iron back.

                      Yes, Definately! I agree, Harry and Mo should cut their iron supply on the first turn of the war.
                      It would be nice but I don't think it could be done. Maybe if we delayed the war a turn. Part of the problem is that GS will see our galley heading down the coast before the war starts. More thoughts on this tonight when I get home and check out maps.
                      Last edited by HarryH; April 8, 2003, 19:22.

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                      • #12
                        check the map of GS here: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Konquest02/mapGS.jpg

                        Red dots are almost certain cities and the green one is a probable city.

                        According to this description, their iron would be located near the 6-6-9 city, just east of the capital, as this city has all of the mentionned characteristics. Most likely, their iron is located there...

                        Their horses could be anywhere, but I would be nice to cut them too...
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                        • #13
                          I agree Kon - that is about where I put it too. And as per our chat last night - I think the other city sites are right on or very close. Argha has also started a similar thread.

                          And I agree with Harry too - that rushing Harry and Mo there would just get them elimintade early. I say stick to the plan.

                          Eliminate the warrior - one less Medieval Infantry to worry about. Then move Harry amd Mo by foot to the mountain chain. The galley returns to the area of iron mountain to pick up more reinforcements - and will be back in 3 turns with what I think should be a spearman and an Immortal.

                          By then we should have some sense of what is going on - and whether we want to ferry more troops in by galley from iron mountain - or go overland from Dissidentville.
                          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                          • #14
                            How reliable is the
                            "It is to the east of the capital, on the coast, and near the northern border."
                            The question is, is it reliable enough to base part of our plan on it?

                            I think we don't have much choice, but it's nice to know this...
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                            • #15
                              I know I have been vague about my sources - that is at their request. But I am not being BS'd by my primary source, and there was no reason for his source to BS him, and the actual quote comes from someone who would know. So I suspect it is fairly reliable. And it is an old quote, dragged out of an old chat log - well before we even contemplated this operation - so we can be fairly sure it is not designed mis-information.

                              The site also makes sense given the two sources of iron we can see. Both are in mountains - near the coasts - and near the centre of the landmass we are on.

                              the only other possibility I can see is that GS has another iron source much further south that is not connected.
                              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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