Moves Discussion Thread

[Dis]

the one warrior is already fortified on the chokepoint. I haven't messed with the city much. In fact we are going to have to mess with the tax slider again. I checked the tax slider last turn, but not this turn. Sorry.

In any case I think the reason we are keeping the warrior in the city is because it might riot at size 3. I still say we can go to size 4 without rioting, but I'm not completely sure.

[Jon Miller]

can someone sim this?

it is important

Jon Miller
no access to civ 3 for 4 more days

[Eli]

On Regent difficulty level the two first citizens are content. So for size 3 we need a police unit.

[Beta]

Yes - but after having produced the settler, the city drops back to pop 1. By the time it is back up to 3 we will have produced a spearman, if that is our next build choice.

[Beta]

Diss or Eli - whoever plays the turn.

The City's name is Miller Town, unless jon wants another variation on his name.

The best tile for the first citizen would appear to be #8, the tile to the northwest - the plains square with the road on it.

We are going to need another worker soon. Some of these tiles should be getting improved.

[Eli]

Yes - but after having produced the settler, the city drops back to pop 1. By the time it is back up to 3 we will have produced a spearman, if that is our next build choice.

Which raises a question...
What are we building now in The Voice?

[Beta]

My suggestion was spearman. The other choices would be barracks or temple. It would be nice to see what the build times for these would be realtive to pop grwoth.

I would suggest the priority is to produce another settler asap. And that is why I suggested spearman - he could keep order in The Voice when it hits pop 3 and until the next settler is produced.

Or we can leave the warrior there and concentrate on temple/barracks and then settler.

I just don't trust GS not to use their two settlers to try and smack through the chokepoint early.

aha! And maybe that is why it would be a good thing to shadow the first GS warrior.

Nope - I say we double up warriors on the chokepoint - and produce a spearman next. Then start building on a settler. If the two GS warriors have wandered away by then - we can swap one of the chokepoint warriors for the spearman, who will become that city's garrison.

[Wittlich]

Originally posted by BetaHound
Nope - I say we double up warriors on the chokepoint - and produce a spearman next. Then start building on a settler. If the two GS warriors have wandered away by then - we can swap one of the chokepoint warriors for the spearman, who will become that city's garrison.

I totally concur with Beta on this.

[Dis]

OK I think that is the general consensus. The next turn whoever plays the turn, we'll come up with a build times list for you all.

[Dis]

OK turn played. I have a screen shot if anyone wants it. A little bit more land opened up in the south. And still 2 GS warriors in our sights.

I built Miller town. I hope that was the correct name. It seems to be a fine berg. It is now utilizing the game square next to The Voice. This is easily the best square. We don't have a road on it, but oh well.

The voice is now utilizing the game square with the road on it. The other major option we can use is the cows. I have build/growth times for both coming up.

The tax slider is still at 20% science. Tweaking did not change our reseach rate at all. So we have the best tax rate available. Iron Working in 19 turns. +4 gold per turn now.

The voice: working game square w/ road. Currently building spearman. Growth in 8 turns. Other build times as follows: spearman 6, temple 19, barracks 13, worker 3, settler 9, walls 6, pyramids 133

If the voice were to work the cows square growth woudl be in 5 turns. build times: settler 14, worker 4, spearman9, temple 29, barracks 19, walls 9, pryamids 199

Millter town working the unroaded game square currently building spearman. Growth in 10 turns. Build times: spearman 7, settler 10, worker 4, barracks 14, temple 20, walls 7, pyramids 134

[Beta]

I say leave The Voice as is. Build spearman then another settler.

Now for Miller Town .. spearman, then let's see??

[Dis]

I'm all for completing the spearman in both towns, then having both start settlers if they can grow to 3 in time. Or we can have Miller town build a worker to connect the luxery, build a road on the game, and start trying to get some irrigation up to the cows (everything else can be mined pretty much)

[Beta]

Yah - I was thinking about how to get a worker squeezed into the queues. As you have pointed out, we definitely could use one.


That and a one tile expansion bridge .....

[Beta]

One other thought. It might be useful to park a warrior on the western most tip of our landmass - up on the peninsula. I'm thinking - but I'm not sure here - that if and when another civ hits the end of the landmass we can see - we will be able to make contact. Is that do-able? I've never encountered this kind of situation in any game I have played.

We could use one of the chokepoint warriors when the spearmen are ready.

Then again - maybe some civ has alreadty come and gone from there and it would be a waste of an early warrior. And perhaps you can't make contact across sea/coastal squares without galleys. I'm not sure.

[Jon Miller]

we don't want to be pressed into defense

only one troop on the ismus for now

if we double up our defense, than GS will have the exploration advantage

Jon Miller