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  • #76
    I say keep El Kraken for something Heavy, like a battleship.
    And AFAIK it is Santa MAria, Nina & Pinta, not Pina, of course I may be wrong. LEt us call our full-time-spaniard, Oliver , and let him say the correct pronounciation.
    Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
    Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
    Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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    • #77
      How long will it take our Armada to reach thier shores? I'd hate to see our troops make such a long trek only to find when the get there that war was over long ago and its battles told as stories by aging Immortals.

      I think we should try to coordinate with Vox as much as possible. 4 units attacking a city at the same turn are always better than two. We must wipe then out instead of just giving them experience.
      Citizen of the Apolyton team in the ISDG
      Currently known as Senor Rubris in the PTW DG team

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      • #78
        It is 33 tiles along the coastlines to the only GS city we can see (11 turns). I am anxiously awaiting the GoW map to see if there is somewhere we might be able to cross more quickly.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by OliverFA
          What we really need is to now how far is Estonia from Terra Nostra. Then we could know if going there and coming back for reinforcements is an option or no.
          I'm negotiating now with GoW for that information. They offered us their map on the last turn, but did not send it as "accepted." I've asked MZ about this, but he says GF has been away for the weekend and he doesn't know anything about it. We'll see what happens. I'm also grilling him over the availablity of Feudalism not that our Defensive Pact against ND is done.

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          • #80
            I'm starting to lose faith in our ability to get what we need for this plan. If we don't get the necessary knowledge quickly and have enough gold for at least one boat upgrade, it will be a long time before the Armada arrives - too long, I'm guessing.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by dejon
              I'm starting to lose faith in our ability to get what we need for this plan. If we don't get the necessary knowledge quickly and have enough gold for at least one boat upgrade, it will be a long time before the Armada arrives - too long, I'm guessing.
              Well, if the Armada arrives too late we can always consider the option of complementing it with a settler and use it to defendd the first overseas Spanish city founded.
              "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
              "A communist is someone who has read Marx and Lenin. An anticommunist is someone who has understood Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan (1911-2004)

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              • #82
                Originally posted by OliverFA


                Well, if the Armada arrives too late we can always consider the option of complementing it with a settler and use it to defendd the first overseas Spanish city founded.
                Given what happened to Vox when they tried to settle on Bob, I don't think this would be a bright idea.
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                • #83
                  We don't have to keep the city. Selling it is always a possibility
                  "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
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                  • #84
                    We would better raze the city until the time comes that we will fully concentrate on colonizing. If we keep the city or setle, it can combine GS and Vox against us, something I don't want to see happening. They will both realize that we have an opportunity profit form their war.

                    Duke Aidun Cian
                    "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                    Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Nuclear Winter
                      I say keep El Kraken for something Heavy, like a battleship.
                      And AFAIK it is Santa MAria, Nina & Pinta, not Pina, of course I may be wrong. LEt us call our full-time-spaniard, Oliver , and let him say the correct pronounciation.
                      NW is right, It is Pinta nor Pina. The three ships were Santa Maria, Pinta and Niña (yes, that ñ again...)
                      "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
                      "A communist is someone who has read Marx and Lenin. An anticommunist is someone who has understood Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan (1911-2004)

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                      • #86
                        [ooc]Ehm, there is one thing you are aparently forgetting: Christofo Colombo, that's his real name, sailed in WESTERN direction instead of, the common, eastern direction. GS is to our east... The continent Colombo should discover is Legos, the island of Legoland.

                        Aidun

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                        "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                        Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                        • #87
                          Aidun, you are right

                          Another thing is that la Santa Maria, la Pinta and la Niña were Caravels, NOT Galleys !!!

                          And they should sail to discover an UNKNOWN continent (Lego), not to fight against a known one !

                          Please, go to make confession with the Pope, you are sinners

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                          • #88
                            Marshal Dejon, I'm inclined to agree. If this expedition is launched at all, we must 1) make sure it arrives safetly, 2) make sure the land troops are landed in a position of safety until they can inflict the maximum amount of damage upon the enemy, and 3) find some way of getting a real benefit out of it.

                            As for ship names...the Armada can't be named after Nina and Pinta. I tracked them down, and they are slave dancers! Furthermore, those names are reserved for exploratory expeditions...

                            El Kraken is a fine name, and one that will inspire fear in the hearts of our barbaric swine enemies! Let's just hope our Kraken doesn't meet up with THE Kraken...

                            Duke Iago Calamari de Toledo
                            Empire growing,
                            Pleasures flowing,
                            Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                            • #89
                              The Kraken is an Evil animal! how come you want to name our ship of *Liberation* named as a wild beast?
                              Besides, all know the Sea serpents eat Krakens, SO this name will attract Sea Serpents! And yet another motive is that El Kraken is a single ship, and as far as I know we are sending a band of them (each galley represents 5 galleys If I recall corectly).
                              Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                              Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
                              Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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                              • #90
                                Nuclearis, I'm going to hunt down every smelly kraken on earth, and eat them! They ate my son!

                                But, for a ship name, I rather like it in a sickening, twisted way. You see, it evokes the right sort of feeling for something really, really big, and rather nasty to come up against. However, perhaps you are right about the Sea Serpents. Someone was chewing on one of my squid boats the other day, and I think it might well have been one of those bloody little guys looking for a kraken.

                                Duke Iago Calamari de Toledo

                                Whatever name you choose, I'd be glad to bless and sanctify the vessel...

                                Cardinal Fernand Calamari
                                Empire growing,
                                Pleasures flowing,
                                Fortune smiles and so should you.

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