Next turn plans 60AD to 1240AD

[vondrack]

Plans for 390AD (Turn 155):


Unit Movement/Actions

1) I.N. to move SW-SW-SE, scouting
2) G.G. to move N-N-N, scouting

3) LEF4 (Alexander, Gareth, Gawain) to move NW-NE-E-N
4) LEF5a (Merciless, Marky Merc) to move E
5) LEF5b (Galahad) to move S-NE-E-N, joining LEF4

6) D'Artagnan to move E-S and fortify in TarZar whitecamp

7) settler 'Tipper' to move W to the Tipperary site (the last Southern city site)
8) settler 'Hammer' to move NW-N-NE en route to the Port Hammer site (our last permanent site in the North)
9) settler 'Sandy' to move N-N-NW en route to the Sandonorico site (our very last permanent site)

10) Fire to move SE-SE-E towards the CrossLog whitecamp

11) new catapult finished in Red Bricks to be named '5th Catapult' and moved NE-N-N towards the Jackson-D.F. whitecamp


Worker Movement/Actions

12) Jason Jr. to move NW and irrigate

13) Jinxo to move E, then clear jungle

14) White & Yellow to move SW, then clear jungle

15) Peter to road as per the GA plan for Sharpehaven

16) Fritz to mine as per the GA plan for Forkmouth

17) Gus to clear forest
18) Stanley to clear forest
speeds up the market build in Oasis, creates one more high food tile for the city

19) Chris to road towards Tipperarry

20) new worker finished in Dye Fields to be named 'Red', moved W and ordered to mine
as per the GA plan for D.F.


City Management

21) Jackson to goldrush a tempbuild of 70 shields (knight), then switch back to marketplace
I must have missed something in my plans, but ATM, we are 1 shield short of finishing the marketplace in exactly 3 turns. After juggling with the numbers in the Jackson GA plan a bit, I believe it will be better to spend 20g on a partial goldrush then to slow the growth by working a desert instead of a grassland on the last turn of the marketplace build.

22) switch Panama production from knight to musketman
I hope we will get our LEF forces back (unless they get assasinated, which I do not believe will happen), so that's 13 extra knights... Panama produces 15spt now, which is perfect for 4-turn muskets, but not-so-perfect for 5-turn knights.

23) Red Bricks to work all but one (mined) grasslands; start another catapult
last turn, I let the labourer to work The Rich Twin to finish the cat in 1 turn; max growth after it's done

24) Dye Fields to work all four dye tiles + the roaded grassland S of the city
as per the GA plan for D.F.

25) Logville to work all riverbank tiles + the roaded/irrigated bonus grassland

26) Oasis to work all three improved riverbank tiles and both improved hills

27) change Tarzania production to knight
complements the production change in Panama - 10spt is just fine for both muskets and knights

28) Kloreepville to start a knight (I mean, "a military unit" - precise production goal TBD later on)


29) check research slider for possible savings

[ZargonX]

22) switch Panama production from knight to musketman
I hope we will get our LEF forces back (unless they get assasinated, which I do not believe will happen), so that's 13 extra knights... Panama produces 15spt now, which is perfect for 4-turn muskets, but not-so-perfect for 5-turn knights.

Sounds good.

11) new catapult finished in Red Bricks to be named '5th Catapult' and moved NE-N-N

5th Catapult? That was the best we could come up with?

[vondrack]

Heh... frankly, if you give me a list of cat names, I will be happy to use them. I am just running out of reasonable names for them (shamelessly stealing ISDG names) - and as they are going to be used in large numbers only, I though we might as well give up giving them distinct names...

[vondrack]

OK, save finally with us again. I have quickly gone through it and found nothing but a couple of minor improvements in the WF allocation + one more free worker (Bruno - will send him irrigating that cattle).

However, it's half past one in here and I'd better postpone playing the turn for the morning - I could easily oversee something.

I have uploaded the save for everybody to have a look at - grab it from the temporary chronicle entry (the last one).

I will play the save first thing after waking up.

'night!

[lmtoops]

Nothing exciting happening, I see no problems.

Leo

[Tiberius]

I noticed that everybody has now Invention, except the Voxes. I believe we could safely gift it to them (and also we could ask if they need Chivalry, or they prefer to builld horses and upgrade them later).

[ZargonX]

If Invention is spread to everyone else, I see no reason not to give it to Vox.

[vondrack]

I had a chat with Beta two days ago... hopefully, I will have time to put a summary here. We did touch the issue of techs, too.

BTW... if anyone notices that we lost silks & spices at the end of the turn - that's because they were not traded, but gifted by ND. And as a gift, the deal was not renegotiated. I am going to PM Darekill & Zayxus, asking them to make sure to send the luxes as accepted again. Hopefully, as trading is done prior to anything else, we will not have a problem with unhappiness.

EDIT: PMed Darekill & Zayxus, asking them to kindly resend the luxes as accepted this turn.

[vondrack]

Plans for 400AD (Turn 156):


Unit Movement/Actions

1) I.N. to move SW-S-SE, scouting
2) G.G. to move N-NE-E, scouting

3) LEF45b (Alexander, Gareth, Gawain, Galahad) to move NE-E-E-SE
4) LEF5a (Merciless, Marky Merc) to move E (not to block the road)

5) settler 'Tipper' to found Tipperary (work cattle or regular grass, start temple)
6) settler 'Hammer' to move N-N-N en route to the Port Hammer site (our last permanent site in the North)
7) settler 'Sandy' to move NW-NW-N en route to the Sandonorico site (our very last permanent site)

8) Fire to move SE-S-E towards the CrossLog whitecamp
9) 5th Catapult to move NE-E-E into the Jackson-D.F. whitecamp

10) Ming to fortify

11) new knight finished in Karina to be named 'Lamorak', moved E-SE-E-NE, and fortified in the CrossLog whitecamp

12) NuMeric (Zargonia garrison) to move NW-W and fortify in TarZar whitecamp (closer to barracked Tarzania)
13) D'Artagnan (TarZar whitecamp) to move SE-SE and fortify in Zargonia

14) upgrade Mercx (Karina) to musketman for 60g
funds replenished, let's restart our upgrade process


Worker Movement/Actions

15) Jinxo to clear jungle

16) Charlie to move S-SW-W, then W-SW-SW and clear the last jungle for Legopolis

17) White & Yellow to clear jungle

18) Patrick to move NE-NE-NE, then road

19) Toby to move NW and irrigate as per the GA plan for Zargonia

20) Adam to move E-E, then road

21) Bruno to road

22) Frank Jr. to road

23) Logger to mine

24) Philippe to move W, then road & mine

25) Rover to move SW-SW-W, then road & mine

26) Luke to mine

27) Farmer to move SE and mine
28) Mark to move SE and mine

29) Jimbo to move NE-E-N, then mine


City Management

30) reassign Jackson labourer from the fully improved hill N-NW to the coast E of the city
same growth, more commerce, market still in 1

31) Farmerville to work all available riverbank tiles and the roaded/mined bonus grassland E-NE of the city

32) Karina to start another knight

33) change Sharpehaven production to knight
more effective use of shields; S'haven will be at 22+12=34 shileds, 3*12=36 to go (no waste at all)

34) reassign Tiberium labourer from one more hill to coast
temple still in one, more commerce

35) Abilene to work both roaded/mined grasslands


36) check research slider for possible savings

37) send dyes to ND/Arabia as 'accepted'

38) send Astronomy to Vox/Persia as 'accepted'

[vondrack]

Save with, just reviewing it.

ND sent the luxes, no riots.
Pamplona has fallen to GoW. Yay!
(but ND is now weak compared to us, GoW is average, so they likely took losses)

[vondrack]

Other than some minor tweaks not yet in the turn plan, I haven't spotted anything unexpected. I am uploading the save to redstar's server (grab it through the last, temporary chronicle entry).

Despite seeing nothing unexpected, I am not going to play the until this evening. First, I am busy, still having lots of business to attend to, second the plan was posted just minutes before the save arriving - and I would like to have everybody look at the thing (as I'm doing things a bit in a hurry, more likely to miss a thing or two).

[vondrack]

Plans for 410AD (Turn 157):


Unit Movement/Actions

1) I.N. to move SW-S-S, scouting
2) G.G. to move NW-NW-N, scouting

3) Alexander to move S-S-SE-SE
4) Gareth to move S-S-SE and fortify
5) Gawain to move S-SE-SE and fortify
6) Galahad to move S-SE-E and fortify
covering as much coast as possible, leaving only a "killing field" LEF123 can immediately attack
7) LEF5a (Merciless, Marky Merc) to move E-E-NE

8) settler 'Hammer' to move NW-N-N en route to the Port Hammer site (our last permanent site in the North)
9) settler 'Sandy' to move W-S-S to the Sandonorico site (our very last permanent site)
10) new settler finished in Logville to be named 'Dubya' and moved W-SW-W to the Camp David site

11) Fire to move SE-S-SW into the CrossLog whitecamp
12) 5th Catapult to fortify in the Jackson-D.F. whitecamp

13) Mercx (Karina garrison) to move SE-E-E
14) Forkmerc (Crossing garrison) to move SW-SW-SW towards Karina

15) new musketman finished in Panama to be named 'Jean-Pierre' and moved NW-N-N
will become Port Hammer garrison

16) new knight finished in Forkmouth to be named 'Percivale' and moved E-E-E-E-E-E en route to the D.F.-Tar whitecamp


Worker Movement/Actions

17) Jason Jr. to move N and irrigate

18) Charlie to move W-W-SW, then clear the last jungle for Legopolis

19) Patrick to road

20) Peter to mine

21) Gus or Stanley to road

22) Adam to road

23) Philippe to road

24) Ken to mine
25) Jimbo to mine

26) Rover to road


City Management

27) reassign Jackson labourer from the coast E to the fully improved hill N-NW of the city, start building palace (prebuild)
as per the GA plan for Jackson

28) Panama to start another musketman

29) Forkmouth to start another knight

30) Logville to work all riverbank tiles but the plains and the irrigated bonus grassland N of the city; start building a worker

31) reassign Oasis labourer from the fully improved hill E-NE to the lake W-NW of the city
to grow in 1 turn (we get the hill shields anyway)

32) Kloreepville to work 4 irrigated grasses and four mined hills

33) Ahhmyfoot to work all roaded 2-food tiles

34) Crossing to work irrigated grass and three coasts

35) Tiberium to work two mined hills, three coasts, and cattle, start worker
Tiberium has a lot of growth potential we are pretty much wasting... let's roll a couple of workers out the city gates

36) check research slider for possible savings

Notes:

a) I start to hesitate whether leaving Q.M. unconnected, building horsemen for upgrades is such a good idea... we've got a number of high-shield cities and our research is fast enough to keep us busy upgrading the "previous" design units to the "modern" design units (e.g. mercs to muskets right now). Do we really need a lousy unconnected city producing 4-turn horsemen that will need at least 80g to upgrade?

b) unless someone feels like building more camps, I'd like to make Logville and (a turn later) Farmerville 2-turn worker pumps now, providing quick workers and pop for slower growing cities

c) with Ahhmyfoot almost finished with its barracks and ready to start building muskets, I believe we'll be able to allow one of our earlier military production centers (S'haven or Tarzania) to build an aqueduct. I'd go for S'haven first, Tarzania second.

[vondrack]

Just BTW... finally having some spare time, I have played with the F11 figures a little bit today.

The Mfg. Goods leader has 181spt (13 more than our regular Mfg. Goods). The third team has only 112spt (that's only 2/3 of our regular Mfg. Good!!! in other words, we generate 50% more shields than the next team behind us!!!). Because of the giant gap I believe that GS is still #1 in Mfg. Good (not that we'd be unable to match and outmatch them, but we are heavily emphasizing growth over production now).

We should definitely worry about our GNP... the leader has more than 490gpt (our regular GNP is 432gpt). I take it for granted that it's again GS in the lead. As our production & population is likely close to them, it means we suck in libraries and marketplaces. The only upside is that they need (much) more to keep their military up. But let's not underestimate their economic power - their research may be quite fast once they start researching again. Let's be wary about which techs we trade to them - they are likely able to beat us in a direct competition for a given tech.

I haven't tried productivity, since because of the huge gap in GNP, the result would be undoubtedly similar.

EDIT: no surprise GS is way ahead of us in GNP... they have 157 pop points, while we have only 127... but we are growing, we are growing...

[vondrack]

And one more thing to think about... since Voxes are going to do their next tech not @ 40t, but faster... is Democracy the best choice? Looking at the tech chart, it probably is... just that I do not see us switching to this gov any time soon.

Regarding techs... what techs we are ready to trade? What shall we trade to GoW for Chemistry (what about Astronomy+Physics+100g for Chemistry+Metallurgy, resale rights to ND and Voxes included)? What techs would we trade to GS? At what cost?

We should start discussing the tech trading, as within a few turns, we'll have other teams knocking on our door.

[vondrack]

Sorry for not posting the plans for the previous turn - I was kinda surprised to get the save so soon. With the war now over, the game is likely to speed up again, it seems.

There was nothing crucial to do in 420AD. I forgot to send Banking to Voxes, but as they are not yet done with PP, that should not be a problem... perhaps we should ask them when they really need it...

Here we go with the plans for 430AD:

Plans for 430AD (Turn 159):


Unit Movement/Actions

1) I.N. to move SW-S-SE, scouting
2) G.G. to move W-NW-NE, scouting

3) Victory to move SE-SE and fortify
4) G.B. to move SE-SE-SE
5) N.C. to move N-N-N
6) J.K. to move S-S-S
forming an early warning screen

7) LEF5a (Merciless, Marky Merc) to move E

8) settler 'Hammer' to move NE onto the Port Hammer site (our last permanent site in the North)
9) Porthos to fortify onto the Port Hammer site

10) settler 'Camper' to move S-S en route to the second camp city site

11) 6th Catapult to move SE-E-SE en route to the D.F.-Tar whitecamp

12) Merril to move NW-N and fortify in Tar-D.F. whitecamp

13) Mercx to fortify in Crossing

14) Forkmerc to upgrade to musketman for 60g

15) Max Payne (Jackson garrison) to upgrade to musketman for 60g

16) new knight finished in Sharpehaven to be named 'Tristan' and moved E-E-E-SE-SE-SE en route to the TarZar whitecamp


Worker Movement/Actions

17) Jason Jr. to move S-SW, then road

18) Michael to move W-SW, then road
making the best use of the spare time he has now

19) Martin or George to road, if possible

20) Red & Purple to clear jungle
21) Orange to mine
as per the GA plan for D.F.

22) Forrest or Leopold to road, if possible

23) Gus to mine

24) Toby to mine

25) Bruno to mine

26) Chris to road

27) Frank Jr. to road

28) Luke to move W, then road

29) Logger to move E and irrigate as per the GA plan for Karina

30) Farmer to move W-SW-S, then road
31) Mark to move W and mine

32) Bob to road

33) new worker finished in Logville to be named 'David' and moved W-W, then road & mine

34) new worker finished in Tiberium to be named 'Jesse' and moved W-NW, then road & mine


City Management

35) Panama to work all improved tiles, but the desert

36) Red Bricks to work all improved grasslands

37) Forkmouth to work all improved tiles, but the deserts and the irrigated grassland N-NW

38) reassign Zargonia labourer from the roaded/irrigated grassland W-NW to the roaded/mined grassland NE of the city
then cattle to hill and we build the barracks in 3 turns

39) Logville to work all riverbank tiles, but the plains and the roaded/irrigated bonus grassland; start another worker

40) reassign Sharephaven labourer from the fully improved hill S-SE to the wheat; start musketman
though I am wondering whether we could afford to switch S'haven to infra...

41) Ahhmyfoot to start a military unit

42) Tiberium to start another worker

43) Q.M. to start barracks

44) Horsefish to work to roaded grassland and bonus grassland


45) send Banking as 'accepted' to Voxes