Government School of Code and Cypher

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Posted on the savegame thread:

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Sent to Togas, oliverfa and Dejon.

Yarhoo! Mapmaking for everyone!

GoW is whoring. (what else is new? )

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From the ISDG forum:
WARNING. Sir Ralph, I trust that you don't read on. The big red warning was just put as a visual aid.

Spoiler:

There's a discussion going over what to research next. Some say we should pick IW, in order to be able to see iron sources and to plan our expansion accordingly. Now here's the interesting part:

Spoiler:

Originally posted by Calc II
Invictus was SURROUNDED by hills yet no iron...

IW

Some posts in between, and then E_T shares his POV, and some information about RP:

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Originally posted by E_T
We (RP) are in the same situation in the PTWDG with Iron. I will not go into any specifics but just to say that we were shocked at were we found our Iron Deposit at. The lessen is not to count your Resources before you have them in hand.

E_T

edit; Shiber I masked the text using the [_spoiler] tag (no underscore]
hope you don't mind , alva

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Originally posted by Calc II
Im afraid that if I join GS, I would just realize that GS has been a boring team all this time. Only thing I can suspect is things that has happened with Vox...
(the rest of this post is irrelevant)

Why do you think that some people perceive us as the "boring team"? Is it because of all the strat regulars, or is it something else? Discussion thread.

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From the Vox thread in the PTWDG forum:

Originally posted by mjmacy
I will try to join the great VOX CONTROLI

(mjmacy is a "settler" and he's totally new to the concept of demogames)

Damn! Yet more instability is to be expected from our neighbour...

[Aeson]

Originally posted by vondrack
(we got NO barbs at all and five techs... talk about being lucky).

That is lucky... at 30% odds for a tech (I think it's ~30% and my testing was just off) that's roughly .243% chance... Better if they opened more than 5 huts. From the wording it sounds like they got at least a couple non-techs. How big is their landmass? 5+ huts is a lot of territory on most maps.

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Edit: damn, meant to post this in the discussion thread.

[alva]

From the ISDG game posted by Vondrack (lego)

vondrack

Originally posted by alva
Close, the last player of the pack, does see the barbarian battles before saving.

Correct, forgot to mention this. I can see the barbarians attacking our units (or GoW's galley... as last turn ) when playing Lego turns.

But as we are not the last one in the loop, we can see nothing in ISDG.

So barb galleys are already around !!!
A mobile in case of emergencies might be needed

[Arrian]

Edit: damn, should go in discussion thread. I moved it.

-Arrian

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Vox is always the fastest team to play their turn, but it took them nearly 10 hours to complete their 1250 BC turn. Either their players experienced technical difficulties, or something is going on - possibly negotiations over contact with Lego.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to coordinate our trading plans with Vox, so that we don't end up standing in each other's way.

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Eek! According to what Vondrack says, ND is trying to sell our contact to GS! Since we're going to get Lego's contact anyway, Lego would just be handing over money to ND's hands in exchange for nothing.

[20:36] Nimitz: hey so how GS doing
[20:36] Shiber: very good, thanks
[20:36] Shiber: our differences with GoW have been resolved
[20:36] Nimitz: thats good
[20:37] Shiber: they agreed to compensate us for their violation of the treaty
[20:37] Nimitz: how
[20:37] Shiber: i believe a message explaining everything has been sent to your ambassador
[20:37] Shiber: i'm not sure if i am authorized to reveal the details of that agreement
[20:37] Nimitz: well ok when hes on he can tell us
[20:38] Shiber: it's not that they traded us some secret alien technology or something, lol
[20:38] Shiber: i'm just not sure if DeepO would approve if i went "over his head"
[20:38] Nimitz: what they got Synthetic fibers
[20:38] Shiber: yeah, from a goodie hut
[20:39] Shiber: they're producing an army of modern armor to destroy ND as we speak
[20:39] Nimitz: lol
[20:40] Shiber: they'll finish their first tank in 102 turns, and then ND should better run away while they can!
[20:40] Nimitz: wow that fast
[20:40] Shiber: anyway, your team is kindof holding the save
[20:40] Shiber: not that i have anything against it
[20:40] Shiber: i'm not sure if any of our players could play our turn right now even if you did pass the save
[20:40] Shiber: i'm just curious
[20:41] Nimitz: well vondrack is off at some dinner party
[20:42] Nimitz: and we're working on a deal for maybe getting your contact
[20:43] Shiber: what do you mean?
[20:43] Shiber: you want GoW to sell you guys our contact or something?
[20:43] Nimitz: no ND
[20:43] Shiber: oh
[20:44] Shiber: won't they be violating some sort of agreement?
[20:44] Nimitz: not that we know of
[20:44] Shiber: i thought that GoW strictly prohibited any team that they sell your contact to from whoring off your contact on their own
[20:44] Shiber: therefore, ND is breaking a treaty
[20:45] Shiber: damn those Bobian civs, they're just hopeless...
[20:45] Nimitz: no they seal you to us
[20:45] Nimitz: not us to you
[20:45] Shiber: oh, that's completely different though
[20:45] Nimitz: right
[20:45] Shiber: lol, and i was starting to get real pissed off at ND
[20:45] Shiber: lol, i feel stupid now
[20:45] Nimitz: and no sale for ND
[20:45] Nimitz: not ND I mean GoW
[20:46] Shiber: and you intend to close this deal this turn?
[20:46] Nimitz: yes most likely
[20:47] Nimitz: We thought it would be good to let you know

PLEASE ADVISE QUICKLY, THEY'RE GOING TO SUM UP THE DEAL WITH ND. Do we want to let them go through with it and give ND money for essentially nothing, or do we want to advise them not to make this deal?

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The chat continues:

[20:49] so we're finally going to make contact, that's cool
[20:50] yes most likely
[20:50] so we can trade
[20:50] do you intend to continue sailing around bob?
[20:51] oh that trade you had us look is nice
[20:51] I don't know
[20:51] oh that trade you had us look is nice <- explain please
[20:52] deepO sent a PM with a deal you are forming
[20:52] still working on
[20:52] oh, you mean republic and currency
[20:52] they might want to trade republic for currency + cash
[20:53] right

Chat continues, the rest is just casual chit-chat. I'll post more logs if I come across something interesting.

[Dominae]

Are we allowed to tell Lego not to go through with the deal? I mean, your discussion is stricly "outside of the game", right? So Neu is just jumping on an opportunity here (as they should).

It would be great to deny them money, but I want to make sure we're allowed to do so.


Dominae

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#apolytonISDG, times are GMT +2:00:

[23:15] * MasterZen just got accepted into Glory of War
[23:16] Togas: God help us all
[23:17] MasterZen: hahahahahaha
[23:18] MasterZen: BTW, that was an EVIL hahahahaha
[23:18] Togas: take a few minutes to soak in the very ... unique ... strategic situation of GoW and send me a PM, Zen

GoW told us that the situation on Bob is gearing towards war. Is this another sign?

[alva]

GF
GoW, ND, and Roleplay are on Bob, GS and Vox are on Other Bob, the [u]island between[/i] Lego and Bob is Baby Bob, and Lego is on Not Bob.

Did we know this already? not sure..

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Originally posted by alva

GF
GoW, ND, and Roleplay are on Bob, GS and Vox are on Other Bob, the [u]island between[/i] Lego and Bob is Baby Bob, and Lego is on Not Bob.

Did we know this already? not sure..

Yes, GoW told us that they are searching for iron overseas, and that they have found one island already, though no iron deposits can be found there.

Edit: bleah, I meant to post this in the discussion thread.