Civ Choice Final: Poll by Paws and Points

[Harovan]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Sir Ralph, can you post a PtW sav here with this behaviour present? I think I may have a way of bringing it to someone's attention.

No, I didn't play much of PTW yet.

In Civ3 I had posted a save in a patch bug report thread, but I don't recall whether it was 1.17f or 1.21f (more likely the latter, though). I searched for it now, but failed. It's more than half a year ago. I considered it to be a minor bug and didn't spend it further attention. If I see it again, I'll show you. But I rarely play in these days, to be honest I haven't even installed a Civ game at the moment. Will do it as soon as our PBEM starts.

[Randolph]

Is there a problem with posting our civ choice? Everyone else has so I supposed that it was only fair.

[notyoueither]

Have they? What are GoW picking?

[Meshelic]

We decided on Egypt correct?

My confusion is really because they and Iroquois were tied for first...

and what civz are the remaining teams playing as?

[notyoueither]

Egypt, Iroquois; one, two.

Either would be good, but Egypt got one more first choice than Iroquois. Therefore, it would be more pleasing to more people if we take Egypt (if available) IMO. Thus I am happy to settle on them if there are no objections.

Iroquois would be good too, and we may end up with them if another team picks Egypt and we lose the contest.

[DeepO]

Originally posted by Randolph
Is there a problem with posting our civ choice? Everyone else has so I supposed that it was only fair.

Not really a problem, but the longer we could keep it hidden from them, the fewer time they have for specific strategies.

One added advantage is that all the discussion gave the idea that we are constantly battering amongst our selves, which is a very good thing (especially as it is far from the thruth). Some more of those smoke shows, and no-one will find it worthy to take on the team with the least coherence

DeepO

[zeit]

One added advantage is that all the discussion gave the idea that we are constantly battering amongst our selves, which is a very good thing (especially as it is far from the thruth). Some more of those smoke shows, and no-one will find it worthy to take on the team with the least coherence

On the other hand, no one will ally with us either...

But i don't see how this will have any real effect in the game, we should declare our choice in due time, I guess Trip will want this to be settled some time before we start, and it seems fair to me that each team clearly knows what they are up against.

[DeepO]

You've got a point there, but by the time we really need allies we should be one of the biggest anyway.

I agree, though, it is a double edged sword. I have to think on this one.

As to setting the game up: I have yet to see the first announcement of anything being final, there is still a lot of work before we will get a file. We have at least a week time, unless we would get our save earlier and play with turn chats...

DeepO

[Randolph]

I do see the advantages to Keeping it secret, but if other teams are stating there choice (including LI) then it only seems fair... we aren't looking for unfair advantages are we?

Maybe GoW hasn't decided yet, or maybe they're being babies and won't tell (I could see that), that doesn't mean we have to.

Regardless, I'm sorry I posted that we were playing Egypt since it seems some people aren't OK with it. I wouldn't have done it without consulting if I thought that anyone would have a problem with it.

[Randolph]

I'll leave any release of information to others (diplomats?) form now on.

[DeepO]

Well, Randolph: don't you think it interesting? Togas even deduced the 'fact' that we are going to value the scientific trait the most... out of pure coincidence it seems. I would say that is a personal victory for you

But you're right, these kind of information releases should be discussed before getting released, even if there is nothing wrong with the information itself. No big deal here, but in the future it will prolly become more important.

DeepO

[Harovan]

Yea, we kind of confused our competitors, which is good .

Randolph, don't worry, it was only a minor mistake, just avoid to let it happen again. Right, some of the other teams stated their choice (or let's say choice of the day), but except of LI (Ottomans) none of the stated choices seems to be final. The Role players won the right to use Carthage over the Builders and are thinking the 2nd week already, if they should pass this right to the Builders. The Builders, OTOH, are not guaranteed to take Carthage even if they're granted the right. So it looks, the other teams also try to fool us.

Generally, we should keep in mind, that information passed to the "enemies" should be well thought. Imagine, if we get a bad start and start to bitch about it in the public, it's likely, that the other teams immediately try to take advantage of it and hunt us down. Even if we lied and our start was wonderful, this would be very bad for us.

So let's think carefully, before we feed the other teams with informations.

[Randolph]

umm.. point taken

[DeepO]

Hmm... we might need to decide to post our choice soon enough: that new German team that is being accepted will likely pick Egypt as well, with such a name.

Or perhaps they want something different this time, who knows.

DeepO

[Arrian]

I was thinking the same thing, DeepO. I don't want to lose Egypt by waiting to announce our preference. I know we have a solid backup and all, but at the very least we could stake out claim and we could even be in a position to give the German team the Egyptians in exchange for... certain considerations

I'd rather keep Egypt, though.

-Arrian