Turn 138, 190AD

[notyoueither]

Has anyone heard from Nathan? If not, I would prefer to wait just a bit before doing it.

[notyoueither]

I would like to switch things around to get EotS to 15spt for the start of the ironless age. This will slow down Sandstrom on growth for a short bit. Otherwise, we have it at 13spt for the next 4 turns.

I take it we will want as many horse as possible, yes? This can be accomplished better by giving EotS one of the fur tiles from Hurricane and having both of them on 2 turn horse, but EotS nees to grow 1 pop, first.

[notyoueither]

btw, if we do this with SanS, we can short rush to 10 sh for 4 gold right now, and knock out a spear in 2. Slight delay in additional settlers, but we want more pikes, yes?

[Shiber]

Definitely

[nbarclay]

I'm about to open the save and take a look at the economy.

[notyoueither]

Cool. This is what I have planned, based on us going to ironless next turn.

Production:
EotS finished kn. Start kn, will change to hor with cash rush, or sp with no rush
Hurr
Cycl
Bold finished kn. Start kn, will change to hor or sp
Temp
Torn
Typh
Aras finished kn. Start kn, will change to hor
Sufa Rush to 10sh for 16gld, change to pike (sp in 2)
SanS Rush to 10sh for 4 gold, change to pike (pk or set in 4)
Mons
OliG
WhiW finished pk. Start pk, will change to sp
Bliz

Work Force:
EotS off 4; onto 8 7
Hurr
Cycl off 4; onto 4 1
Bold
Temp off 6 3, 8, 4; onto 6 9, 4 7, 2 1
Torn
Typh off 2 3; onto 6. For one turn
Aras off 3 3, 6 9; onto 6 3, 1
Sufa off 4 7; onto 6. Will change back next turn
SanS off 7; onto 9. Rush to 10 sh for 4 gold, change
Mons
OliG off 6 3; onto 9 9
WhiW
Bliz

City Shield Status:
EotS 13 > 15
Hurr 16 > [16, 14, 16, 14 alternating coast and mountain tile]. We may squeeze a kn out first
Cycl 06
Bold 10
Temp 22 > can lose 2 or 7
Torn 10
Typh 07
Aras 14 > needs to bump up
Sufa 06
SanS va
Mons 07 > 5 [cash rush to 10 for 3 turn spear after this next pike in 1]
OliG 04 > growing
WhiW 04 > growing
Bliz 05 > growing

[notyoueither]

btw, where do we want to park the galley fleet while the infantry are aground?

I would be very surprised to still see a rider in Valancia next turn, and i doubt much of the road between there and Murcia will remain...

In other words, we will need boats to move south in good time.

[notyoueither]

one more btw, we will need more boats, that is clear. Should we switch Mons to a vet galley in 1?

[Theseus]

I am in awe. I do not manage at nearly the level that some of you seem to...

Yes, a Galley for Monsoon... I have lately come of a mind that one cannot have too many Galleys.

[nbarclay]

Why do we have knights standing out in the open by Pamplona without pikes covering them?

[notyoueither]

They have been there to draw attacks from Pamplona. They should move back to the mountain now, the numbers do not favour the position any longer.

[nbarclay]

I haven't been keeping up with things lately. Would someone mind explaining what the strategy is in regard to going ironless (especially, what the plans are in terms of how to disconnect and when/how to reconnect)?

[notyoueither]

Short course...

We go ironless to double or more our production of units.

We cut all but one iron. That one iron continues to flow to RP for the trade. We are ironless.

When we have enough units ready to upgrade, we cut the iron to RP thus getting it back for ourselves. We can thus instantly get the iron we need to upgrade a snot load of units at once.

We have discussed cutting that iron by pillaging a road on grass or plains in Spain, having 2 workers in tile, and immediately reconnecting and reoffering trades to RP.

We can equally effectively accomplish the 'get iron for one turn for upgrades' goal by DoWing on RP and immediately offering peace with luxes and iron.

btw, GoW is ironless. The only way that was accomplished was by a 0 turn DoW of ND on them. ND declared war, offered peace and blah blah. GoW accepted before anyone ever saw the state of war.

[nbarclay]

Where are the planned pillages? WoC 3 and the mountain between Monsoon and Dissidentville?

[notyoueither]

right on the iron for Diss and Inof.

We have 2 workers standing by in tile at Diss to immediately rebuild the mine. The Inof min completes in 5, should not be effected by the pillage.