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  • #61
    NO we have to destroy them NOW !
    Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
    Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor Party

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Meshelic
      NO we have to destroy them NOW !
      Vini, Vidi, Poluti.

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      • #63
        Oddly enough, I agree on attacking the Americans NOW... read my post in the thread about the info we know about Boston... In my opinion, it's now or never if we want to take Boston before the Aztecs do.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Arnelos
          In my opinion, it's now or never if we want to take Boston before the Aztecs do.
          Never? I disagree. We should be able to take Boston from the Aztecs easily enough down the road, if it becomes a priority. IMO we are getting carried away with a sense of crisis here.
          It is MUCH more important to stage our golden age correctly -- in the right government, with adequate cultural and economic infrastructre in place to maximize its benefits. Until we we have everything lined up (marketplaces, courthouses, etc.) we must not use our War Chariots. The advantages of optimizing our GA far outweigh the benefits of taking Boston.
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          • #65
            Isn't the turn you declare the revolution the one turn you don't want to rush buildings?

            Having the revolution the right turn so we are in Republic for the entire Golden Age is more important that those buildings needing rushed.

            Robber Baron, We have to be at war to get a Golden Age in this time frame. What's to stop the Aztecs from contining on after Boston to take the last American city?

            Plus the culural bombing of Washington will be easier if we start with Boston.

            And we don't want the Aztecs in turn losing those cities to the Germans if the Germans decide the Aztecs have gone soft.
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            • #66
              Well, the war for America is over now, and as most of you know we prevented the Aztecs from capturing the last standing American city of New York.

              Even though I stand among the most war-mongering Hawks and will continue to encourage growth of empire, I do think that a period of peace and prosperity is in order. We're a republic now, so lets keep the people happy and prepare for the next time we need "breathing room"....
              Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
              Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor Party

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Arnelos
                In my opinion, it's now or never if we want to take Boston before the Aztecs do.
                told you so
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                • #68
                  From my estimate, I see Alexander and Montezuma in an un-banana alliance. That is my fear. As of this point, I think they have the troops and could out-produce us. What I also worry about is a lack of navy. It's not feasible to put one together right now, but I feel an odd historical paradox of a large land nation/army with a small fleet...

                  And screw the French, Germans and English. Even together we'd slaughter 'em.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Mr. Orange
                    From my estimate, I see Alexander and Montezuma in an un-banana alliance. That is my fear. As of this point, I think they have the troops and could out-produce us.
                    While that is true, we do hold a certain amount of power over these nations because of our huge amount of export and trade power. These nations in some way need us around to survive. The Greeks are a different story. While they may be trade partners with us, they are also a formidable opponent. We have to watch them and the Germans very carefully, as the French, Aztec and English have little might compared to ours.

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                    And screw the French, Germans and English. Even together we'd slaughter 'em.
                    Reminds me of my fellow Hawks.
                    Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
                    Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor Party

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                    • #70
                      I just don't agree on the Germans. They are a middle power with no access to the ocean. The only way they'll expand is through attacking other nations. Why pick a fight with the biggest kid on the block? My guess is Otto goes after the English. They stack together the best.

                      Reminds me of my fellow Hawks.
                      As close as I get. ::

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                      • #71
                        If Otto goes to war with the English we have an interest in allying with him. We share only few tilesides with the English so we have an easy to defend border. All we have to do is to rush some defenders to Arbela and its surroundings and then ally with Otto, hold off the English, maybe attack and take some of their southern cities and most of all, enjoy all the techs and gpt that Otto will bestow upon us for allying with him.
                        "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
                        And the truth isn't what you want to see,
                        Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
                        - Phantom of the Opera

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                        • #72
                          I coulnd't agree with you more. Enland is where out border is the most ambigious. Aro's maps demonstrate this beautifully. How I hate Expansionist Civs. they always screw up my nice borders...

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                          • #73
                            England is a good target. They are smaller, and we can expand naturally in that direction. Another thing of note is that England has a high culture rating - lets stop our east flank from culture flipping by destroying them!!!
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                            • #74
                              I agree that the natural movement of the Germans is towards the coast, and that likely places either the English or the Aztecs at risk of a possible German invasion. The risk to us? Probably minimal. We have plenty of territory and the initial impact of an invading German force would be swallowed up by our huge expanse of land. Similar to the problems Napolean, Hitler etc ran into on their campaign in Russia...

                              Can we trust the Germans? That's the big issue for me. Otto always seems to be annoyed at something, or demanding this and that. His character is very predictable in this game.

                              The English can suffer at the hands of our armed forces. They take up some prime coastline, and if we can get those cities then we have a greater chance of discovering the lost civs before anyone else does, since the English seem to be ahead of us in that race, or will be in the future.

                              Take the English out. They won't know what hit em.
                              Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
                              Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor Party

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                              • #75
                                Here's something jingoistic to rally around...

                                To all Apolytonia! London Calling!

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