Persia: Peace, Quick War, or Total Conquest?

[Togas]

Citizens,

Germany has paid us a handsome sum to cease the war, but Persia is also willing to pay to end it. The original policy of the Ministry was to end the Persian war after the two Grand Basin cities were captured, but discussion in the War Academy thread has got me thinking. We all need to discuss this. How far should we go with Persia?

A) End it now, take the money and run.
B) Quick war. 2 cities. Cash out. Focus on America, Uber Isle, and ourself.
C) Longer war. Conquer until they give us such a good deal we can't possibly say no.
D) Conquest. We take the Pyramids and their very fertile land and resources.

They are military pushovers without iron. Their best unit is an archer. They cannot poprush defenders. We have some signifigant advantages over them.

Please discuss this topic at length so a decision can be made before the next turnchat.

--Togas

p.s. This poll will last 3 days. It is technically unofficial but will be made to make an official policy decision, so please, everyone vote.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Re: Persia: Peace, Quick War, or Total Conquest?

Originally posted by Togas
Citizens,
They are military pushovers without iron. Their best unit is an archer. They cannot poprush defenders. We have some signifigant advantages over them.

But then they are in a position to advance quickly in science so we will probably end up fighting Longbowmen and Knights.

[adaMada]

Re: Re: Persia: Peace, Quick War, or Total Conquest?

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

But then they are in a position to advance quickly in science so we will probably end up fighting Longbowmen and Knights.

Actually, that's an important point for conquest/long war... Persia's a pushover now, but they won't be forever...

Right now, I'm undecided -- I want to hear the discussion first, as I see benefits to both sides.

-- adaMada

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Oh I fully agree, I just want people to realize what the potential downsides are.

[adaMada]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Oh I fully agree, I just want people to realize what the potential downsides are.

'k. Just checking that everyone saw the positive side of it too...

-- adaMada

[Thud]

I find myself, to my shock and amazement, questioning whether or not prolongment of this war would be of benefit (my usual stance is that none of this ridiculous war was needed). Before reading the War Academy thread, and this thread, my answer would've been "Sign now". The terms are decent now.

Perhaps conquest would benefit us. After all, having the Pyramids would give us a little growth spurt that we so desparatly need. Really, their land and resources are worth more to us than America, or even Uber Isle at this point. And if we continue to allow them unbridled growth, they may well be a significant threat later on.

If they are as weak as anticipated, I beleive that this war may bring benefits outweighing the costs.

Undoublatbly, the current situation calls for the taking of the two cities nearest us.

My Opinion is that we should prolong the war, HOWEVER, we should delay war with the U.S. indefinitely. I'm thinking we could probably get a new tech if we keep at it. I'm almost always against wars, so I am also reluctant to be a proponent of total conquest, even if we would net the pyramids.

Option 3, continue war for better settlement, is my vote.

[Duddha]

Total War!

[Laertes]

I'm new to the Demo game, so forgive me if I miss something important. Also, I have not got up to Deity yet (just started winning on Monarch)

The Persians seem to be weak now, and we have a lot of Swordsmen available.

They have great territory, lots of grass, cows and wheat, whereas we have jungle. That is also a good case for trying to get the Pyramids, to compensate for what will be a lot of jngle tiles for some time, depite our stacks of workers and slaves.

The city third nearest to us (Antioch?) has iron just outside its borders, so any "quick strike" should endeavour to secure the iron before their borders expand and get the science (if they do not already have it).

If we get ANtioch, we might as well finish the job off! The empire would then be somewhat spread out E-W, but we would have a very central capital. And great territory.

ps I'm not normally a warmonger

[Donegeal]

I belive that I have made opinion very clear in other threads:

KILL!!

Yes they might be technologicly advanced now but it does them no good with out the all important Iron. Knights require Iron if I remember correctly. The Longbowmen would worry my except that I don't think they have the money to upgrade their Archers. Believe it or not, I think I would go for continuing the war with them until we take their Capitol (and Pyramids) then sue for all that we can. Leaving them alive lets us sue for Tech that we would otherwise have to buy from someone else.

So I vote "near conquest"

hmmmm... not an option... damn. Ok wait for "Sweet Deal"

[Donegeal]

Oops! Sweet Deal only after we take Pyramids!

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Pyramids, iron, and all the luxury resources.

I guess they could keep Tarsus.

Send a message that NO ONE breaks an ROP treaty with us and gets away with it!

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Take Tyre and Sidon, then send a stern warning that if they ever declare war on us again, we will eradicate them. Utterly. No one shall betray us like that ever again without punishment.

(Where's that red font Uber used...?)

[wervdon]

At least get the pyramids unless something changes between now and then. Make them pay for their treachery :P

[Trevman]

Our civilization needs a break. We just got a large chunk of land from France that we need to develop and our culture and infrastructure is lagging far behind. My opinion is that we cannot forever continue to conquest with a bunch of crap cities. We need production, culture, and a decent science output. Besides, our empire is near the corruption threshold, taking a few other cities will not help us much for now.

[jdd2007]

i think we should conquer until we have what we want, which is luxuries, iton, more cities and the pyramids. if that means a more prolonger war, then so be it. we must strike now!