Election: President

[civman2000]

wow 2 new votes for ninot (i know one is probably trickey who just joined and joined the DIA and i know is NOT a DL) and he's leading by 3

[MarkG]

Originally posted by wervdon
Any chance you could tell us what the vote is minus those who hadn't signed up for the game once the poll closes?

sure, once the poll closes

[Epistax]

This might cause a massive flamewave, but we could just remove every vote by someone that voted before they became a member (although something tells me that everyone who voted without being member, still isn't one).


The only problem with this is we'd probably have a tie :P

[wervdon]

Thanks MarkG, There's at least a 50/50 chance that knowing the results with and without the extra voters will let us put this to rest

[Papa Chubby]

That would probably be the most fair to do, removing all those that are not members of the democracy game. Then we would have to follow up on this and put it into the constitution, prefferably into the Amendment that Trip has proposed. Furthermore it should be clarified what constitutes an majority vote, whether it is as little as 1 vote, or maybe a minimum of 5.

[Jonny]

The election is still close, Ninot is leading by 4.

Oh, by the way, this is my 469th post, if anyone really cares.

[wervdon]

I personally wouldn't support actually removing anyone's vote unless it can be backed up with our constitution somehow (I dont think it can, but im not actually sure what if any ammendments passed so far)

But if we can show that it doesnt matter wether or not we remove votes, then everything else becomes more or less a non-issue...

[Aro]

50% + 1 (vote) is majority in almost every democratic constitution over the world, when the subject are adminastrative jobs or regular senate matters. But, if the matter is the constitution itself, we will need 2/3 of votes ( I'm not shure if this in our constitution ). I mean, amendments and changes. But, while I'm writing this Ninot is leading by 4 votes, and this fits the requirements. He is winning, by now.
But... one of the foundations of Democracy is the secret of vote. It's a private action, without pressures of any kind. Can we expose all votes without lost the spirit of the game? I don't care if everybody will know how I voted, but are many others who cares.
And, more important,

Originally posted by wervdon
I personally wouldn't support actually removing anyone's vote unless it can be backed up with our constitution somehow (I dont think it can, but im not actually sure what if any ammendments passed so far)

But if we can show that it doesnt matter wether or not we remove votes, then everything else becomes more or less a non-issue...

I agree. And we really need to put out our Supreme Court!!

[Aro]

50% + 1 (vote) is majority in almost every democratic constitution over the world, when the subject are adminastrative jobs or regular senate matters. But, if the matter is the constitution itself, we will need 2/3 of votes ( I'm not shure if this in our constitution ). I mean, amendments and changes. But, while I'm writing this Ninot is leading by 4 votes, and this fit the requirements. He is winning, by now.
But... one of the foundations of Democracy is the secret of vote. It's a private action, without pressures of any kind. Can we expose all votes without lost the spirit of the game? I don't care if everybody will know how I voted, but are many others who cares.
And, more important,

Originally posted by wervdon
I personally wouldn't support actually removing anyone's vote unless it can be backed up with our constitution somehow (I dont think it can, but im not actually sure what if any ammendments passed so far)

But if we can show that it doesnt matter wether or not we remove votes, then everything else becomes more or less a non-issue...

I agree. And we really need to put out our Supreme Court!!

[Aro]

50% + 1 (vote) is majority in almost every democratic constitution over the world, when the subject are adminastrative jobs or regular senate matters. But, if the matter is the constitution itself, we will need 2/3 of votes ( I'm not shure if this is in our constitution ). I mean, amendments and changes. But, while I'm writing this Ninot is leading by 4 votes, and this fits the requirements. He is winning, by now.
But... one of the foundations of Democracy is the secret of vote. It's a private action, without pressures of any kind. Can we expose all votes without lost the spirit of the game? I don't care if everybody will know how I voted, but are many others who cares.
And, more important,

Originally posted by wervdon
I personally wouldn't support actually removing anyone's vote unless it can be backed up with our constitution somehow (I dont think it can, but im not actually sure what if any ammendments passed so far)

But if we can show that it doesnt matter wether or not we remove votes, then everything else becomes more or less a non-issue...

I agree. And we really need to put out our Supreme Court!!

[mtgillespie]

OK, we get the point

[Papa Chubby]

Right now it is looking as if our little crisis is blowing over. Though this does show us that our system of election is far from perfect.

[Aro]

I'm very sorry by the triple post. My fault, I had some troubles trying to correct my bad english...

[Kuciwalker]

WOW!!! A FOUR-POINT LEAD!!!

(snicker)

[Aro]

Skywalker,
3 points, now. But there is a tendency, do you agreed?
Ninot will win, probabily . All over this poll he had one or two votes ahead.