The Senate

[Kuciwalker]

We're all the Senate.

[notyoueither]

I would like to say for the record...

I am totally opposed to some of the suggestions being floated in other threads. Suggestions that a Senate should be closely involved with the executive, and in many cases superior to it in decision making. The people elect the President and his ministers. The Senate has no business interfering with the will of the people.

However, sometimes the people may seek the advice of a body of experienced people. Or the Constitution may develop in a way that having a Senate could be useful from time to time, in rare cases.

Other than that. The Senate would be useful as I have previously outlined. As a way to keep more people interested longer and as a good excuse for a drinking club.

[Panag]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I wanna be a senator. Don't wanna be a minister. I'd have to do something if I were a minister. As a senator I could be lazy and complain and get drunk on general principle. Of course, I can do that as Joius Blowius citizen too, but I'd rather do it as a senator.

It might also be good for there to be a 'chamber of sober second thought' from time to time.

hi ,

yes we need a senate , and you should get the job for the armed forces , ......

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
Well, i'd rather be the Cat Catcher. No such intentions, though...

hi ,

the office of internal control , and foreign , ....

allas , ya wanna do it , ....



who say's yes , ....

have a nice day

[Proserpine]

No Senate

Personally, I don't see why we need a Senate. Surely any issues should come up & be dealt with in the chats? Isn't that the real Senate, & the point of this game. Why add another layer of "bureaucracy"?

[Inverse Icarus]

the people are the senate.

it's a direct democracy

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by notyoueither
And besides, what's the harm if ThePlaugeRat starts a poll to name himself the dog catcher?

The harm is when people who create such positions try to have an official say on what occurs with the game.

I am totally opposed to some of the suggestions being floated in other threads. Suggestions that a Senate should be closely involved with the executive, and in many cases superior to it in decision making. The people elect the President and his ministers. The Senate has no business interfering with the will of the people.

Well then what would it do? I feel that a body such a an official Senate would need more rules and regulations than the current government in place. Certainly more than "be[ing] useful from time to time, in rare cases." So far I haven't heard any good reason to have a Senate. If people want to be involved, then holding a title like 'Senator' is just as meaningless as being a regular citizen, unless they have some power. And why should they have power? What makes everyone thing we need a special office or committee for each and every function in the game? The only reason for its creation so far is to give advice (do we really need an official body to do that?), and to give positions to people so they can feel important...
Unless someone comes up with a good reason to have a Senate, and acceptable powers for it to have, I give the creation of such a thing a firm .

[notyoueither]

Uber, says the guy who has a job to keep him interested...

Proserpine, there is no permanent log of chat that can be reviewed. There is one, but it is only available to Markos and his minions.

[Panag]

Re: No Senate

Originally posted by Proserpine
Personally, I don't see why we need a Senate. Surely any issues should come up & be dealt with in the chats? Isn't that the real Senate, & the point of this game. Why add another layer of "bureaucracy"?

hi ,

to prevent for example wrongful impeachment of our beloved president , ......or any other member of the government .

to control certain "subversive" individuals , ...

to see if the government is doing a good job

to be a watchdog

to check that some people dont smoke cigars while in office , ........

to advice the president and the vice-president what to do when certain people become a nuisance , .......and start to do certain things

to check , recheck , and double check certain actions from our nation , ...

to check on the minister's that they do what the where going to do

to see if there is not to much spending

etc , ....

big CAT , care to put something else with it , ....

ah , yes , the senate goes for a drink ones in a while , the money goes to charity , ....

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Trip

The harm is when people who create such positions try to have an official say on what occurs with the game.


Well then what would it do? I feel that a body such a an official Senate would need more rules and regulations than the current government in place. Certainly more than "be[ing] useful from time to time, in rare cases." So far I haven't heard any good reason to have a Senate. If people want to be involved, then holding a title like 'Senator' is just as meaningless as being a regular citizen, unless they have some power. And why should they have power? What makes everyone thing we need a special office or committee for each and every function in the game? The only reason for its creation so far is to give advice (do we really need an official body to do that?), and to give positions to people so they can feel important...
Unless someone comes up with a good reason to have a Senate, and acceptable powers for it to have, I give the creation of such a thing a firm .

hi ,

remeber what you told an hour ago , ...

just imagine that because of some hearsay or lobbying half the government is impeached , .....
or that this or that person in the government does this or that , but in the intrest of this or that , the person can explain his or that , .....

anyway , the senate is a body that listen's to the people and at the same the government , ......

an ones in a while could act when its needed as a judge , however with so many qualified people in office , this shall not happen to much , ..........

and it would be great for the game , rules , that would take 5 min to make , and the senators are people with a gut feeling for what is right and wrong , ..

have a nice day

[Moral Hazard]

The senate could settle issues about whether a poll is legitimate or not.

[ThePlagueRat]

Originally posted by Trip

The harm is when people who create such positions try to have an official say on what occurs with the game.

Mr. President. I surely agree on that subject!
Such a position could never be approved by this great people, and one should always listen to the intellect of the people.
I think you know that. The example stated above is not to be accounted for by the ThePlagueRat. It's a terrible example stated by a drunk senator, whose intention is rather unclear...
NB: I represent a philosophic society, and I do like cats!
Preferrably black ones.

[Panag]

Originally posted by ThePlagueRat



Mr. President. I surely agree on that subject!
Such a position could never be approved by this great people, and one should always listen to the intellect of the people.
I think you know that. The example stated above is not to be accounted for by the ThePlagueRat. It's a terrible example stated by a drunk senator, whose intention is rather unclear...
NB: I represent a philosophic society, and I do like cats!
Preferrably black ones.

hi ,

a drunken one , all ready , sjeee , put him in the tank , ....wait a minute , where is the evidence , present it on the floor , or thou shall not speak bad , ....

max number of senators , 5

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Moral Hazard
The senate could settle issues about whether a poll is legitimate or not.

hi ,

for example , .......
and the same for impeachment , ....

have a nice day

[notyoueither]

Moral Hazard,

That's a good one.