The French corner : Joan or Napoleon or Louis XIV

[Kramerman]

If you have no feet, don't walk on fire

DAMN IT!!!
I always wanted to walk on fire.... damn birth defect....

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Imperial-Markus
Oh and I didn’t know that Switzerland is a protectorate of Austria thanks for updating my knowledge on this matter Kram.

What does that make Liechtenstein?

And why is French the official diplomatic language in the EU instead of German? Doesn't Germany have a more dominant financial structure and industrial base?

[Kramerman]

crap, it double posted my thread when I tried to abort. sorry- disreguard this.

[Kramerman]

Woops, I must of missed this post.

Well congratulation Kramerman to your profound knowledge in geography. Except these little mistakes sabrewolf pointed out already you're description was quite good.

Thank you mucho, geography a one point was one of my finer points. In junior High I knew the capitol of every contry in the world, excluding south-east asi and sub-sahara Africa (so many freakin countries with hard to pronounce names - almost as bad as russian cities)

I speak German (certainly), English (think it's quite good; what’s your opinion?),Italian and French.

Your English is excellent, sometimes I get pretty friggin jealous of you guys who learn English as like your 900th language and can still teach me a few pointers .

Why is England not in the EU, or are they? I always thought they were not members (I don't remeber why I think this) but maybe they are. And why is France thinking about leaving? Why doesn't Europe try to become one large country? I know all the countries have their own strong cultures and would like to keep their autonomy, but a united Europe would be an economic, industrial, technilogical, and even militray power to be reckoned with; definately joing the US in Super Power status. I also look forward to seeing Russia grow and prospur and return to their super power status under their new free market idealology, even though they haven't had the best start with it - damn corrupt buisness men raping their own country. In the US we are kinda experienceing this, and thats friggin sad. You'd think after 226 years, we'd have the capitolist (with a little-bitty bit of socialism) system down to a science, but we dont ... yet. The day will come ...

Kman

P.S. this thread has become, the "teach Kramerman about Europe" thread. I can't help my facination though.

[Fresno]

England is in the EU, but the English are very much attached to their autonomy, more than other members. That's why they don't use the euro. I believe they call it 'splendid isolation;' they are European, but many of them want to see England as another continent...

I didn't know France wants to leave... Never heard of it too. If it's true what you say, it would be a shame, since they are one of the two leading countries (together with Germany). They SHOULD be in, because without them the EU wouldn't work.

I wish the EU could act as one country. But now right wing governments come to power everywhere, it's not very likely to happen.

[Venger]

Originally posted by siredgar
For example, while I believe FDR was the greatest American leader,

(cough) (hack) Oh dear God, not FDR. He was a good leader for the US during wartime, but he was far, far from perfect, made horrible decisions about the fate of Europe, disastrous policies for the economy, attempted to stack the Supreme Court. Jeez...

it was Abraham Lincoln that kept the union together.

Greatest President in our history, just beating out George Washington, who was no slouch!

Venger

[Kramerman]

After you take into consideration that FDR was in office for almost twice as long as any other president ever was, he had alot more time to make more mistakes. However he also had more time to do more great things. I must say FDR is among the US's greatest leaders, and that is a fact. However saying any more or less of him would only be an opinion.

Kman

[joony]

That was the most well researched thread i have ever seen. Well done my people.

[Kramerman]

I don't understand what you mean?

[badman]

I associate France primarily (is that right? ) with Napoleon for he played a huge part in Europe's history even though he failed. My second choice would be Loius XIV. who is really famous (yet not so popular ).
To me, Jean D'Arc is too much of a legend and a soldier and not a leader/politician.
I also think that Charles De Gaulle did not really change the world and had such a great influence than Napoleon or even Louis XIV. who influenced many generations or at least devoted their attention of them to him.

[Kramerman]

England is in the EU, but the English are very much attached to their autonomy, more than other members. That's why they don't use the euro.

Thats right, thats why I didn'y think they were in the EU, because they don't use the Euro, but they are I see.

I didn't know France wants to leave... Never heard of it too.

Yeah, I don't know what of the French Pres election (its probably been long over), but I remeber hearing the far right guy who apposed Chirac wanted to leave the EU if he was elected, if I understood the news correctly.

[Incan_Warrior]

I chose Joan just because her story is so amazing, though I agree that she might not be the best choice. She would probably be an appropriate leader that would come from an Elite unit victory. Anyway, Firaxis needs to reduce the fat from her face - there is no way she was that chubby in real life.

[Kramerman]

she's not that chubby at all. a few pages ago we were discussing how cute she was...

[Alanus]

Originally posted by Kramerman
Yeah, I don't know what of the French Pres election (its probably been long over), but I remeber hearing the far right guy who apposed Chirac wanted to leave the EU if he was elected, if I understood the news correctly.

The president election in France is over (May), as is the Parliament's one (June). Chirac wons by 80% against Le Pen (the far right guy), whose ideas and program were nonsense (like France leaving the UE). We should not have had such a second turn, but the "normal" opponent to Chirac, socialist Jospin, was beaten by Le Pen during the primary. But fortunately, Le Pen had no chance against Chirac Shame on France.

[Kramerman]

Ah thank you Alanus, I continue to learn more everyday . I don't know much about Chirac, but I'm glad the Le Pen guy lost by such a large margin for the EU's sake. Viva Le France!

Kman