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Is America old enough to be in Civ3? No.
America is only 225 years old.
Should America be included in Civ3? Yes.
In those 225 years, America has done more than most nations have done in 2000 years.
-Military Dominance: duh!
-Cultural Dominance: jeans, macdonalds, rock and roll, rap, t-shirts, suburbs..
-Scientific Dominance: (mostly measured by military's use of hi tech gadgets, and advacned governemtn programs such as SETI and NASA. Also measured by manufactoring use of hi tech gadgets)
Heres a few examples of European nations:
-Germany: 500 BC, unorganized barbarian clans (huns, Goths, Visigoths, OStrogoths, blahgoths)
1000 AD, unorganized, loose clan of fiefs/kingdoms/ that form the Holy Roman Empire, one of the most disorganized, and economically/sceintifically backwards
15th century: The HRE's only scientific achivement: the Gutenberg Printing Press.
18-early 19th century: Consolidation of a few fiefs. Biggest german state is Prussia, a collection of disjointed land which form a country.
Late 19th: Unification of Germany under Bismark. Germany becomes Europe;'s most powerful land power
20th Century: Germany makes a few mistakes and gets flattened once politcally, and once physically. Most cultural buildings such as the 'old towns' in most cities and middle age cathedrals destroyed in air raids.
Germany didn't do a thing until the 18th century. Yet simply because it has existsed for 1000s of years, you want to include it?
Ahh. but wait. You want to include it because of its 18th -20th century achivements. Well, America has been around for about that lenght of time, and you don;t want to include it, even if the USA has dominatd the world alsmost since its beginnings?
America is only 225 years old.
Should America be included in Civ3? Yes.
In those 225 years, America has done more than most nations have done in 2000 years.
-Military Dominance: duh!
-Cultural Dominance: jeans, macdonalds, rock and roll, rap, t-shirts, suburbs..
-Scientific Dominance: (mostly measured by military's use of hi tech gadgets, and advacned governemtn programs such as SETI and NASA. Also measured by manufactoring use of hi tech gadgets)
Heres a few examples of European nations:
-Germany: 500 BC, unorganized barbarian clans (huns, Goths, Visigoths, OStrogoths, blahgoths)
1000 AD, unorganized, loose clan of fiefs/kingdoms/ that form the Holy Roman Empire, one of the most disorganized, and economically/sceintifically backwards
15th century: The HRE's only scientific achivement: the Gutenberg Printing Press.
18-early 19th century: Consolidation of a few fiefs. Biggest german state is Prussia, a collection of disjointed land which form a country.
Late 19th: Unification of Germany under Bismark. Germany becomes Europe;'s most powerful land power
20th Century: Germany makes a few mistakes and gets flattened once politcally, and once physically. Most cultural buildings such as the 'old towns' in most cities and middle age cathedrals destroyed in air raids.
Germany didn't do a thing until the 18th century. Yet simply because it has existsed for 1000s of years, you want to include it?
Ahh. but wait. You want to include it because of its 18th -20th century achivements. Well, America has been around for about that lenght of time, and you don;t want to include it, even if the USA has dominatd the world alsmost since its beginnings?
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