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Gramphos,
Well, I do agree with much of what the group seems to stand for but I'm not a very 'clubby' person and I don't regard myself a pessimist either (I think it's very realistic to assume that Civ3 will NOT be utopia of strategy gaming but only a very good game at best). In any case, you don't have to be a pessimist to see that the statements of a single preview doesn't outweigh the truckload of evidence and suggestion from other sources. To assume only 7 or 8 civs are playable would be very realistic.
The only text info we have on the Barbarians that I'm aware off (I did some research, though not too thoroughly) comes from the PC Gameplay magazine:
"Barbarians now work in a totally different way. In this game Barbarians have cities, like all other civs, and they originate from these cities and make raids. Sometimes building roads can be really hard because there are barbarians out there that constantly attack. Each time you destroy a barbarian town, it will respawn itself in an area of the map you can't currently see. So what you have to try to do is set up a situation where you can see as much of the map as possible so that you can keep pushing them back."
There's one other piece of info though, from the demo video from E3 (I think the explanation of 'video reference' in the summary links to it). About 5 minutes into the video a Roman unit walks into a goody hut, unleashing barbarians (see screenshot below). This hut looks a lot like a city, perhaps this is the kind of city described above?
If this is so, it looks very different from regular cities and thus suggests that the barbarians aren't a civ. In any case, there's plenty of room for speculation here; suffice to say we know little to nothing about the barbarians and IMHO shouldn't be too worried about them in the context of this thread.
Mark,
A Firaxian said that? When was that then, I don't recall any such statement. Do you have an URL to back that up? Quite frankly I don't think you do, just check the summary: "Firaxis said they made NO official announcement regarding the number of civs that may or may not be included in the game".
Also, I find it hard to believe Firaxis would deliberately put out screenshots with as sole purpose to confuse a bunch over overly enthousiastic Apolytoners who are so desperate for an update that they'll discuss anything civ3-related to kill the time, even the colors used for the civs
Well, I do agree with much of what the group seems to stand for but I'm not a very 'clubby' person and I don't regard myself a pessimist either (I think it's very realistic to assume that Civ3 will NOT be utopia of strategy gaming but only a very good game at best). In any case, you don't have to be a pessimist to see that the statements of a single preview doesn't outweigh the truckload of evidence and suggestion from other sources. To assume only 7 or 8 civs are playable would be very realistic.
The only text info we have on the Barbarians that I'm aware off (I did some research, though not too thoroughly) comes from the PC Gameplay magazine:
"Barbarians now work in a totally different way. In this game Barbarians have cities, like all other civs, and they originate from these cities and make raids. Sometimes building roads can be really hard because there are barbarians out there that constantly attack. Each time you destroy a barbarian town, it will respawn itself in an area of the map you can't currently see. So what you have to try to do is set up a situation where you can see as much of the map as possible so that you can keep pushing them back."
There's one other piece of info though, from the demo video from E3 (I think the explanation of 'video reference' in the summary links to it). About 5 minutes into the video a Roman unit walks into a goody hut, unleashing barbarians (see screenshot below). This hut looks a lot like a city, perhaps this is the kind of city described above?
If this is so, it looks very different from regular cities and thus suggests that the barbarians aren't a civ. In any case, there's plenty of room for speculation here; suffice to say we know little to nothing about the barbarians and IMHO shouldn't be too worried about them in the context of this thread.
Mark,
A Firaxian said that? When was that then, I don't recall any such statement. Do you have an URL to back that up? Quite frankly I don't think you do, just check the summary: "Firaxis said they made NO official announcement regarding the number of civs that may or may not be included in the game".
Also, I find it hard to believe Firaxis would deliberately put out screenshots with as sole purpose to confuse a bunch over overly enthousiastic Apolytoners who are so desperate for an update that they'll discuss anything civ3-related to kill the time, even the colors used for the civs
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I have some doubts though. You can't actually read those characters but just because they don't look Mongolian they must be Japanese? I think that conclusion might be a little bit premature. Maybe they don't mean anything at all, they're just random dots and stripes? Maybe they're neither Japanese nor Mongolian, maybe they turn out to be Vietnamese or something. I'll admit I know virtually nothing about languages in that region but unless someone who speaks Japanese can confirm that these characters are actually Japanese (or at least could well be) and translate them for us, I think we should be very careful about drawing conclusions.
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