AU 206: Gallic Glory - Stories and Strategy Tips

[Arrian]

I guess that the Mounted Warrior would look pretty unbalanced if you analyzed it that way, alexman.

But then if you take into account how the civ's traits factor in (full-price barracks for the Iroquois), and the upgrade path (chariots being 2x as shield-costly as warriors for prebuilds), it isn't necessarily the monster it looks like.

Anyway, I agree with your conclusion. Most of the units are pretty well balanced.

-Arrian

[Catt]

I plunged in to read the spoilers even though I haven't even downloaded the class assignment -- yesterday morning my aging laptop finally bit the dust -- unless I find a good deal on a standard set-up at a local electronics store, it looks like no (or very little) civ for at least the week it would take to get a new Dell built and shipped. I guess the good news is that I get to reintroduce myself to my wife . . . and, I get a more powerful Civ Console . . . er, productivity tool .

Rough break badams52 -- I hope you're playing again with a warrior-enabled civ.

Dominae, Arrian and Nathan all seem to be on the way to UP.

Originally posted by alexman
So on average, you lose more shields by attacking with regular swordsmen than you do with Gallic Swordsmen, even if the latter cost 50 shields compared to 30!

. . . and you get retreat (which is more than just preserving shields -- it also enables preservation of previously acquired promotions) and a fast mover attack ability to boot.

Maybe we should discuss the merits of changing the GS cost to 60 shields.

Catt

[Chemical Ollie]

Persians are the axis of evil, allright!

[Arrian]

Doh! They killed Olaf! Those Bastards! [/Southpark]

Catt,

Sorry to hear about the laptop, but like you said, now you get a fancy new toy!

Get that baby up and running, I miss your AAR already.

-Arrian

[Chemical Ollie]

They walked right into my territory and attacked across the river with 2 warriors against my single one. The second one got lucky and my game was kinda over.

This calls for revenge!!!

[nbarclay]

Olaf, you gave me the perfect excuse to throw my current peace treaty with Persia in my game out the window. How dare they do such a nasty thing to my civilization in an alternate universe?

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by nbarclay
Olaf, you gave me the perfect excuse to throw my current peace treaty with Persia in my game out the window. How dare they do such a nasty thing to my civilization in an alternate universe?

I forgot to mention that they didn't even declare war until they attacked. They came from nowhere and Bam-Bom-game over!
The next game was better (see below).

[Chemical Ollie]

Next try went better (so far). I play emperor level. Built the cities quite close. Focused on military and REX. Almost no early culture. Met 3 civs very soon and did some tech trading. Built some temples at the edge cities to expand my borders. Got lucky (see picture).

[Chemical Ollie]

Finally got Iron, after the border expanded. Started to build and upgrade to the Gals. Had about 10 when Persia declared war after a refused blackmail. I attacked first and triggered my GA. Lost 3 Gals to city defenders but eventually took the city. Killed plenty of archers and immortals (they are mortal ) and made peace quite soon. Built and built Gals until Rome declared war after a refused blackmail. I had 25 o them when the war started. Persia and India joined Rome's side on the next turn.

Man, do these Gals rock? Kill/loss ratio perhaps 5:1 - even on legions!

[Chemical Ollie]

My Gallic swordsmen killed enemy units like butchering cattle. Spearmen, archers, immortals, legions, knights - none of them were any match. I took 2 Indian cities before they begged for peace. The Romans were also willing to pay tribute to me after losing hordes of men to my Gals. Now I could focus on the Persians, my nemesis from the first game. The war was slowly but steadily going my way, capturing city after city, when 3 random events within a short time ruined my fun:

1) My only iron depleted - goodbye to any more Gals, not to mention the knights and pikemen that I would otherwise be able to build soon.

2) A size 9 city with only Gaelic citizens AND my forbidden palace DEPOSED to the Chinese! This was the first time ever I have seen such a thing happen in 15 months of playing CIV3. That event alone would be enough to quit a non-tournament game. But I decided to play on.

3) I attacked Persepolis with everything I had. An earlier attempt with a stack of 13 Gals had failed. Now I had 30 Gals. The upgrade of pikemen to musketmen did not save the Persians. I took the city with only minor losses, along with the Great Library, the Colossus and the Lighthouse. The GL gave me 10+ techs so that I was almost up to date with the leading Romans. 2 turns later, Persepolis deposed back. That would normally not have been a big problem, but now it contained more than 20 of my Gallic Swordsmen, plus longbows and horsies. Goodbye to warmongering.

My retaliation was merciless. Persepolis is no more!

[Chemical Ollie]

Is this a bug, or why have I no ivory in my luxury box? There is surely an elephant with roads within the city borders.

[nbarclay]

Is it possible that you're trading away all the ivory that's currently hooked up?

Edit: In case anyone doesn't realize it, if you lose a supply of something due to a culture flip, military loss, etc., you have to honor your trade deals as best you can even if it means doing without yourself. (At least that was how it worked last I noticed.)

[Jawa Jocky]

Since the 1st Celtic worker left the village to work in the game rich forest, the Celts had a vision of their future. An army of GS would dominate the continent and ignite a Golden Age. They quickly discovered their centralized position in the world and used it gain a tech broker position. Iron (just the type of resource the Celts would need for their GS) was discovered near the Chinese border and a settler was rushed to the area. At this moment the Celts realized they would have to control the Chinese lands if they truly wanted to advance as a great nation. The Chinese Capital would be a great place to build a FP if a GL were ever spawned.

[Jawa Jocky]

China and Persia were currently fighting and our military buildup was breaking our economy. The Celts decided that now was the time to begin. Our GS army headed toward the Chinese capital and the Wonder know the world over as the Pyramids. The mysteries powers of the Pyramids were said to let a civilization grow more rapidly. The objective was achieved in two years and the Celtic GA was in full swing.

[Jawa Jocky]

Unfortunately the future unraveled for the Celts. The Persians who were in a long distance stalemate war with the Chinese decided to change their course. They made peace with China and attacked us. With most of our army to the North we were in no position to defend ourselves. A wave of immortals quickly poured over our lands and the Celtic people were never seen building cities again.

It was rumored that one family of Celts managed to escape alive. They were historians who would write of the “Critical Errors of the Celtic People” and pass to future generations the story of the little green people who just could make things work.