Delenda sunt...

[Marquis de Sodaq]

All right, I wasted a weekend trying to set more standards. Alas, all I have to show for it is a pair of very beatable results. Because they aren't impressive, I'll skip the play-by-play.

Independent Greeks: All objectives (except Raphia, which got razed) in 92 years. I didn't bother continuing to get all additional cities. The blasted Romans got steam engine 3 turns after me! They had gunpowder, too. No civs eliminated...

Ptolemaic Greeks: All objectives (except Pella, which got razed) in 96 years. Reaching La Tene took a whole decade! Didn't get all cities, but only the Celts and Romans remained on the map.

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"There is no fortress impregnable to an ass laden with gold."
-Philip of Macedon

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq on 05-20-2001 11:27 PM All right, I wasted a weekend trying to set more standards. Alas, all I have to show for it is a pair of very beatable results.

Marquis, IMO you cannot waste anything playing civ2!
(and you should remember that, when I started this thread a few weeks ago, no one except myself had beaten the century, ... and that was with caravan rehoming)
ALL RESULTS ARE BEATABLE
(except high scores by Ming = too boring , launching SS with one city size one by samson = too serious , landing sooner than solo = caravan rehoming now forbidden ).

[La Fayette]

Rome scenario - Tiny Hall of Fame:

Romans: 43 years (DaveV)
Carthaginians: 74 years (EOL)
Seleucids: 74 years (Marquis de Sodaq)
Independent: 92 years (Marquis de Sodaq)
Ptolemaic: 96 years (Marquis de Sodaq)
Macedonian: ?
Celts: ?

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aux bords mystérieux du monde occidental

[Marquis de Sodaq]

While squashing the Romans, Vercingetorix looks at his shiny new wristwatch. "Good heavens! Is it 198bc already? We have only 20 years to sack Egypt!" Antioch has fallen, the musketeers and cannon are sailing toward Damascus and Carthage. They should be celtic in just a few years. Those foolish Egyptians have still not built walls around Raphia, maybe Damascus can wait. But then how long will it take to reach Seleucia? It looks as tho the ironclad will enter the scene too late, time to rush build more cannon! Hurry, hurry! Meanwhile, the clock continues to tick...

[Marquis de Sodaq]

The Celts win the challenge! 99 years for all objectives. Vercingetorix, ruler of all Mediterranean lands, has submitted this timeline for Apolytoners' perusal. While the Seleucids and Macedonians were left with several cities each, another ten years would have seen an end to that. The ironclad strategy did not seem like a good approach, as the Celts are so landlocked at the start, so they chose the muskets and metallurgy route. The record of conquest and 3-figure gold transactions:

278 Celtic start
269 Delphi (left Pella alone on the first turn)
267 Abdera
266 Miletus
256 150g from Macedon
254 Pella
252 Massilia
249 100g from Carthage, 300g from Seleucids
245 400g from Ind. Greeks for peace (silly fools)
241 Demetrias for 149g
240 gems --> Syracuse 140g
238 Athens 848g
234 Caralis
232 250g from Ptolomies, 250g from Seleucids, 175g from Ind. Greeks
231 175g from Ind. Greeks
228 250g from Ptolomies
226 250g from Ptolomies, metallurgy discovered
223 silk --> Rhodes 330g, hides --> Rhodes 292g
221 Pisae
220 Gades, 225g from Ind. Greeks
217 Sena
214 Rhodes, Pergamum
210 silk --> Seleucia 135g
205 Syracuse
202 Rome
199 Antioch
198 Lilybeum
197 Terracina
193 Neapolis
191 Carthage
190 Rahpia, Hippo Regius on sale for 343g (got 407 back!)
189 steam engine discovered
188 Alexandria, Heraclea, Romans eliminated
187 Heliopolis 504g
186 Taras, Ind. Greeks lose independence
185 Leptis
184 Damascus (tough nut to crack)
183 Cyrene, Saragossa
182 Memphis, Swazi, Carthaginians relegated to history books
179 Seleucia!, Valladolid for 384g, Bilbao for 284g, Ptolomies wiped off the map, 12,000,000 celts.

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq
The Celts win the challenge! 99 years for all objectives.

Special congratulations: even the poor celts have now beaten the century!
Now are only the smiling Macedonians left.
I feel compelled to have a try (as Philip of course )

[Scouse Gits]

Surely, La Fayette, that honour should fall to MarkG ...

Mark G - Mark G - Mark G!!!

[Xin Yu]

Played Celts for several turns. This is interesting. I have only encountered one barb legion after tipped off a lot of huts. I got at least 5 techs (including invention), 2 cities, 3 wandering nomads, and several units. Is that because that my power was pathetic? Could never build any wonders.

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
Surely, La Fayette, that honour should fall to MarkG ...

Sure it should!
I swear I won't try to beat him if he has a try.
But I suppose he's so busy managing us that he never has even
5 minutes left to tip a hut.

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Xin Yu
Played Celts for several turns. This is interesting. I have only encountered one barb legion after tipped off a lot of huts.

Are you telling us that you are tipping huts in the Rome scenario?
I suppose that many of us would be very happy to know what Xin Yu achieves when playing Celts, ...
but AFAIK there are no huts in that scenario

[Scouse Gits]

I think it was DaveV who remarked that the Rome scenario has huts in MGE - none in 2.42 ...

By the way La Fayette - now that you have UCC you might take a look at the 'Napoleon' scenario that comes with Fantastic Worlds. We looked at it very briefly last night - seems kewl ...

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
I think it was DaveV who remarked that the Rome scenario has huts in MGE - none in 2.42 ...
..

It seems that my tiny Hall of Fame is going to need growing:
7 civs with and without huts means 14 names on the board
(I suppose it would be very unfair to compare results obtained with and without huts)
Therefore, Dave, EOL, Marquis, please let us know whether you tipped huts or not

[Marquis de Sodaq]

I tipped huts, as I play in MGE.

[La Fayette]

189: Philip of Macedon takes La Tene and Milan.
All objectives Macedonian.
This means 89 years (without tipping huts ).
The challenge of beating the century is now beaten by all 7 civs in the Rome scenario.
A nice Hall of Fame will be established when we know which results were obtained with and without hut tipping.
(DaveV and EOL, please let us know )

[EOL]

No huts. I usually use 2.42 but have FW as well.

EOL