record attempt(yes I am nuts:D )

[shade]

Yes... you are nuts

Thanks

About that maximumscore:

Barb Bonus : +25 (for Diety)
Peace Bonus : +3/turn (with a maximum of +100)
Wonders : +20/Wonder(28 Wonders=>+560)
Space Ship : +400 for entire ship
Future Techs : +5/Tech (255 techs=>+1275)
Population : +2/happy +1/content +0/rest
==>specialists=content
==>Max City Size=127
====>2O NON-specialists +107 Specialists
==>Max # Cities= 255

==>ToTal_Popbonus=254*((20*2)+(107*1))= +37338
------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL MAX SCORE:+39698
(Winning the game by space-race is more profitable than by conquest,No city can give you 400pts)
THis is if I didn't forget anything.(Does anybody know if you put lux at 100% if it are only the not-specialists who are made happy or is it possible to have hidden happy(specialist)citizens??I know the manual says that specialist are considered content)

Words can't even begin to describe just how BORING it will be.

Trust me I know borring,ever fell asleep just reading the introduction of a cursus???(and I had had a good nightrest)

(First update:
On Diety(despotism)you can only build 6 cities,before your first citizen is red =>got monarchy=>started converting
-1900BC:7 cities,>100000 pop)

Shade
(BTW it's an attempt,It is possible that I don't succeed(eg not enough turns))

[geofelt]

Before you get too far, I have a suggestion. Try for the max score on a minimum sized world(25x40). For a record, it would be best if a standard world map of that size existed, but I suspect it does not. To relieve tedium, I would also offer the following additional restrictions:
1) No use of food caravans to increase city population.
2) No engineer terrain transformations allowed. Settler only mining and irrigation transformation of jungles and swamps allowed.
3) No airbases allowed. I could change on this one, I like them.

If you or someone else wants to post such a b4000.sav, I will try it. It probably only takes an evening to conquer the world, and one or two more to max out the score.

[shade]

Try for the max score on a minimum sized world(25x40).

The problem with this is that the max score depends on the map and the rules you use=>bad way to do maxscore contests.
(The only way would be that a group of ppl played on the same map with the same rules and then look who has the highest score)

2) No engineer terrain transformations allowed. Settler only mining and irrigation transformation of jungles and swamps allowed.

=> (what's the use of settlers then??)

Shade

[Blaupanzer]

Yes, you are insane. At least 15,000 of those points will be earned in boredom. Accept no restrictions that are acceptable in the rules. It's okay to transform, use food caravans, and other specifically allowed processes. However, no rehoming caravans, building airbases on hills/mountains, or railroading the sea type of tricks.

[shade]

railroading ocean????

Originally posted by blaupanzer
or railroading the sea

I know this is possible in CIVI(there you could build roads on oceansquares)But I thought this was impossible in CivII?
=>Is this possible?(and what are the advantages)

([Little OT]: Is there a link to the start of the Great Library??,Except for the thread ?[/little OT])

Shade

[Carolus Rex]

Whenever you need to let some steam out, please post in this thread:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28618

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

I think you will have one or two things to add to the current list.

Carolus

[shade]

thx Carolus,I didn't think of that yet(No frustrations in this game yet )

Shade
"Tries to keep the population in a babyboom."

[Julius Brenzaida]

Shade, I am also running for the record, but with a single little starting cheat : a premade map. Rivers everywhere, opponents on ice island unable to build a city. I’ve opened up all huts (many before founding my 1st city) and have started with a huge army and lot of money to immediatly build wonders.
in 500 bc (deity, raging hordes), I’ve already the 255 cities and 150’000’000 citizen.
I’ll keep you informed of my progress. It’s obvious it is easier that way. I don’t pretend to hold any record that way, but I will be able to check the max score and the max population (that’s what I am mainly interested in).
If anyone wants the starting map, I can put it in an attachement here.
Except for the premade map, I don’t cheat at all. Oh yes, it is a gigamap for MGE or ToT only.

[Julius Brenzaida]

By the way, it is true that a competition with a random map start for everyone could be fun. Except that as Ming and Rah have testified, it is probably way too boring to attract many people. But imagine all the tricks that would be useful. For once, you must start with purple according to Samson, oedo years, maximizing trading and so on ...

[shade]

Good luck Julius.
What you say about your game beeing easier because of your starting conditions?I don't know.It will be easier to obtain your goal but the borring part will start earlier and take longer.
While I'm expanding I will also be whooping the ***** of my enemies and by the time that's finished I will already have finished quite a bit of the work.

in 500 bc (deity, raging hordes), I’ve already the 255 cities and 150’000’000 citizen.

(I thought the limit of cities was 255 so if you have 255 cities then there are no more enemy cities(or it it different in ToT?or MGE btw what are you playing???)

but I will be able to check the max score and the max population (that’s what I am mainly interested in).

Did a quick calculation
if you have 254 cities of size 127 you will have a population of
20.645.120.000 ppl(in Civ 2.42 I think this number can be displayed,didn't check it yet,if you get over 650 000 000 than it will be else you'll see your counter switching backt from zero)

I’ll keep you informed of my progress.
If anyone wants the starting map, I can put it in an attachement here.

Go ahead,you can post it here.
(so ppl can find both our struggle with boredom here )

Shade

[Messer Niccolò]

Originally posted by shade


About that maximumscore:

Barb Bonus : +25 (for Diety)
Peace Bonus : +3/turn (with a maximum of +100)
Wonders : +20/Wonder(28 Wonders=>+560)
Space Ship : +400 for entire ship
Future Techs : +5/Tech (255 techs=>+1275)
Population : +2/happy +1/content +0/rest
==>specialists=content
==>Max City Size=127
====>2O NON-specialists +107 Specialists
==>Max # Cities= 255

==>ToTal_Popbonus=254*((20*2)+(107*1))= +37338
------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL MAX SCORE:+39698

ok you've determined which can be the maximum score... so I don't see the point to waste a lot of hours tending to such score... but of course I'll sit and look at your attempt (every 3 or 4 weeks )

[rah]

Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida
Shade, I am also running for the record, but with a single little starting cheat : a premade map. Rivers everywhere, opponents on ice island unable to build a city. I’ve opened up all huts (many before founding my 1st city) and have started with a huge army and lot of money to immediatly build wonders.
in 500 bc (deity, raging hordes), I’ve already the 255 cities and 150’000’000 citizen.
I’ll keep you informed of my progress. It’s obvious it is easier that way. I don’t pretend to hold any record that way, but I will be able to check the max score and the max population (that’s what I am mainly interested in).
If anyone wants the starting map, I can put it in an attachement here.
Except for the premade map, I don’t cheat at all. Oh yes, it is a gigamap for MGE or ToT only.

One question.
If the AI is never going to build a city, what do you need a large non-army for? A few troops and a a few diplos is all you need against barbs.

It will be interesting to see that even your selective start, how many turns you can play before you just give up and launch the damn space ship.


RAH

[shade]

Originally posted by Messer Niccolò


ok you've determined which can be the maximum score... so I don't see the point to waste a lot of hours tending to such score... but of course I'll sit and look at your attempt (every 3 or 4 weeks )

I have only a maximum of 400 turns to do this(on Diety)
ergo its possible not to succeed because I run out of turns.
(What I want to say is:It's easy to calculate the maximumscore(everyone can do that),But can I achieve such a score?)

It will be interesting to see that even your selective start, how many turns you can play before you just give up and launch the damn space ship.

there is an other alternative:
"Dying out of borredom."

Shade

[Jay Bee]

what would be the maximum score w/o "tricks"? (i.e. playing the game without the caravan trick, the airfield, etc, etc). That the score I once aimed at, but I think I only got into the 14,000s.