Another IMPERIALISM 1870

[Darius871]

C'mon Eivind, what's the word here? I saw you post at CFC (here), have you been visiting Apolyton?

[sas]

If you need a replacement after this, send me a message

[Darius871]

Eivind is having trouble logging into Apolyton, so he asked me to post this:

I have done nothing wrong! I used veteran Steam Warships in both attacks. Sorry, sas, they need no replacements after "this". Case closed!

Now I guess the only way I can respond is to let people see just how impossible this result was. I've attached a save with 5 veteran warships next to Athens, and 5 veteran warships next to Beirut. As you can see by playing it, each city is able to sink from 2 to 4 ships before succumbing.

Note that no matter how many times you replay, the first ship NEVER kills the infantry alone, and certainly NEVER at two different cities in the same turn.

I'm not going to sit here and accuse of anything, just presenting the facts about what happened. Play this turn and you can all see for yourselves.

[sas]

Out of curiosity, i tried Darius save. And sadly i can confirm what Darius just said. The first ship NEVER kills the infantry alone.

I probably reloaded 8-12 times

[JamesJKirk]

I just tried 15 times, the first ship never killed the unit. Twice the unit in Beirut got in the red, and that's it. Generally the first ship got the unit down to somewhere in the middle

[Darius871]

From Eivind, who still can't post:

I am innocent! I swear on my most sacred word of honour! That result was clean, nomatter what your claims might be. This is really frustrating because I know by my self that I didn't do anything wrong. I don't know what more to say.

Well I don't know what to say. Killing a fortified oriental rifle unit on hills or with coastal fortifications is impossible with one veteran steam warship, period. So...?

[Dr. Nick]

What, then, will be the course of action to follow?

[Darius871]

Well, if he continues to insist he got those results normally in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I just don't know what to do (this hasn't happened before).

[sas]

Three things;

1. How can it be a problem to log on to Apolyton and at the same time have no problem to log on to other sites? I thought you only need to be online and have an account here.

2. Eivind is listed as a former cheater. And even though i hate to see any player go (there are few enought as it is), this doesnt exactly give him much integrity.

3. I have tried to play the game some more and after over 50 reloads i still cant take a city without loosing a ship first. I think there is no way Eiving could have done what he claims.

[Eivind IV]

I am not able to log onto the computer from my home computer, I am now at school.

Yes, I am listed as a former cheater, but I have reformed and have played clean since then. Why would I cheat a second time? I DID NOT CHEAT WHEN CAPTURING ATHENS AND BEIRUT!

I don't care if you don't belive me, I know by my self that I did not do anything wrong.

You willhave to decide amoung your selves if you want me to continue. I reloaded the turn until the city was captured, but that is not illegal. I know that it might be somewhat cowardly, but I did not change the rules. I did not cheat!

[conmcb25]

Ah these are the times that test mens souls.

Kobra, I think you need to explain exactly how this combat turn was played including approximately how many times you reloaded.

And no Im not following you around but you are in one of my historibus playtests and I have an interest in what happens here. Sorry just the way it is.

[sas]

Guys!

After some more testing i DID manage to kill the defending unit in the cities without loosing the ship!

I guess this frees Eivind of the accusations made. I'm really sorry Eivind! I dont know how many times you reloaded, but it must have been alot. I think i reloaded allmost 70 times. You sounded sinere, and i would like to make sure the accusations where bullet proof. And as it turned out, they where not.

[Dr. Nick]

I think that all this reloading issue is becoming a bit of a pain in the neck.

[sas]

Originally posted by El Awrence
I think that all this reloading issue is becoming a bit of a pain in the neck.

I will only speak for myself. I never reload unless i make a mistake that wasnt intended. Like attacking a unit i didnt intend to, or moving the unit the wrong way.

Reloading to death to get the result you want is perhaps not cheating, but i consider it a result you didnt deserve. Meaning i can never know if you reload to get the result you want, but you will never be the winner in my view if i knew you did it

So in the case with Eiving here, i dont think he deserves the cities he took. But thats just my opinion.....

[Dr. Nick]

Indeed, it's not cheating, but it's definetly 'unsporting'.