The History of the World III...

[OzzyKP]

Sorry Deity. Nothing personal, honest. Its always fun to let new blood in, and anyways Kuja confirmed first. You are deffinatly an asset to have in a diplogame.

And I would say no to Monsters and units. A longboat or something would be fine, but lets think human units. Remember Triremes will have 4 moves in this game. Caravels will have 6. You could make a 5 move Trireme as your special unit. That would be damn powerful I'd imagine.

We have decided on Emporer as the difficulty as a good compromise.

So we need TWO players before Wednesday. Come on folks! Sign on up!

[OzzyKP]

what do people think about the natives stats? I'm all about historical realism, so i'm thinking the natives should be very weak though not total pushovers. Give some definate resistance but not really kick the conquerers ass.

For a defense and attack unit i'm thinking:
3/2/1 Alpine & Pikeman special
4/2/2 Alpine & pikeman special

Frank wants to make them:
4/3/1 Alpine & Pikeman
6/3/2 Alpine & Pikeman

I think those are a bit too powerful, but what do y'all think?

[Kuja]

these are civ specific units, right? then i like frank's stats on the indians, it would be a nice challenge. can we make the indians resistant to bribing as well? that way we can't steal their units. did we decide on the bribing rules? and is this 1x1x, or 2x1x, or what?

[Frank Johnson]

Its a 1x 1x game.

Brbing issue is still up in the air, but I think we can all agree not to bribe the natives. Usually we end up making unit bribing ok and city brbing not allowed.

Also we need to deside on the level of normal barbarian actvity. Once that is desided I can at least start working on the map, renaming civs, etc.......

Kuja, please contact me anyway you want, ICQ, email, AIM, the board.....and lets choose you a final starting spot and a special unit to start the game with.

[Kuja]

after looking at the map, the scots don't look very appealing. their only good resources are in the ocean, but the only way to utilize them is to build cities on hills or forests. and in 1x production, that isn't exactly desirable. so since you need a tribe in africa, i could be the zulus. what do you think?

[OzzyKP]

I can't say I blame you, but awww, the Scots would have been cool to have in the game. Southern England is really nice, wheat and fish. Plus you have easy access to the continent with all its incredible resources. And the best benifit of your position would be your easy access to North America you could island hop there with your special longboat and set up shop long before anyone else reaches the new world.

But yea, Zulus are needed too.

I still think we need someone else in Europe. British, French, Germans, Spanish, Italians, Austrians whoever. Didn't Capo or someone mention an interest in being the Austrians/Hapsburgs?

[Prometheus]

Err that was me that said Austrians, but I can still be them, we might be playing with only four people unless we can find someone pretty soon.

[OzzyKP]

Well I don't want to start with only 4 people. Lets wait till the game fills up. I want to get going as much as anyone else, but I don't want to do it half-a$$edly.

[Berzerker]

I'll play! What civs are open?

[Kuja]

i believe we have: Arabs, Chinese, Russians?, and Zulus. So maybe you could be another civ in Europe, or Asia.

[OzzyKP]

One in western europe and one in Asia.

So far Russia, Arabs, Chinese and Zulus are taken.

[OzzyKP]

Jinx!

But I have a point to make about Diplogames. They are a craft. I am very disappointed in the Saturday Night Diplogame. Because in all honesty it isn't a diplogame at all. Almost no story telling and roleplaying. This is essential for a good diplogame. We are all characters in an ever evolving story.

We can't just play with a determination to win or be biggest and best, that is folly. We all must be prepared to be in last place and like it. Some times the last place player has more fun and does a better job than some of the top dogs.

I INSIST that if you are going to sign up for this game that you read through Diplogames from the past. Read their threads, read their stories, read the roles they assume for themselves and the culture they create.

I have put much thought into this game and I want it to be a smash success. If everyone gets in the game, puts their heads down and starts building I will be deeply saddened and frustrated. Interaction is the keystone of a diplogame. Role-playing.

If you have never played a diplogame before, or if you have played them poorly before I insist you look into the proper way of conducting yourself in the game. A lot of thought and effort have been put into setting this up, I sincerely don't want anything to happen to it.

It seems the best diploplayers are no longer interested in the genre. Drake has given up, Raz is too busy, Capo... sadly, is as always, Capo. The elder originators of the craft haven't been back in a while.

As keeper of the Diplo-faith I refer everyone to the Diplo-Gospel:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1494

Good overview of Diplogames and plenty of links to all the best games that you MUST read up on. Its how I got started, its how Capo got started. We read history and then we made history.

[Rasputin]

Umm just a thought re natives in America, is there any way to set their governemnt to Democracy , then they are immune to bribery .


Go for it guys and I will look for subbing oppurtunitys as they arise...

My bet is most fun wil lbe had by Ozz as Arabs, always fun to be caught in middle!!!!

[OzzyKP]

Raz, we've still got some open slots and we need players. I would love to have you back. Sign up!

[CapTVK]

Good to see diplogaming is still going strong. What we lack in numbers is made up with skill, real skills. A shame that my present job and other interests (exploring the innards of Freeciv, scenarios e.a) makes it a bit difficult for me to play throughout the week. (Having only dialup internet at the moment doesn't help much either)
It would be easier for me if it was during the weekends, but alas. You can sign me up as a sub though.



I wish all players good luck in their quest for world domination. And if you can't try and suck up or do some serious background scheming&backstabbing. Now give 'em hell!


Some wise words from the past..
Please leave your ego's at the door and enter in character instead.