Civ3: Who's resolve is first to falter?

[rah]

you have to have a city on the continent that you want to trade with. it also has to have a harbor and then be connected by road to their capital.

[deity]

I love this game.

AH, you need Astronomy, I think, to cross ocean squares with trade.

[deity]

Two efforts so far!

My first effort, as I said, I dived in on Deity level. I chose the English, major mistake - Man of War is their special unit which was not needed, got TWO wheat for the capital on a river floodplain, near jungle. Was ravaged by raging hordes and disease from jungle and with only 3 cities by about 700BC was sandwiched between Persians in the North and Russians in the South who attacked me at the same time... well to cut a long story short, well to cut a short story even shorter I was Elizabeth the worthless!

BTW
THEY SPELL DEITY AS DIETY IN THE HALL OF FAME!!!!!!!!!

major grrrrrrrrrrrrr

But I really like the culture thing and got this working really well in my current second game.

I droped back to Emperor level in this game and, like AH, I'm taking it slowly so I don't miss anything - unlike that Canadian Cowboy

I chose the Greeks and got 5 cities on an island with Romans who had 4 cities. The Greeks start with Hoplate unit which gives great defence from Day One. So I was nice as pie to Romans, gifted a few little things to them and their Northern city fell into my lap

So with 6 cities and in Republic my techs are rolling.

Then I realised I needed aqueducts to grow above size 6! Then I realised I couldn't irrigate ANY squares cos I have NO fresh water ANYWHERE on the island! Have to wait till Electricity now?????
So, building harbours.

Built no Wonders.

Traded no techs.

Am behind in techs but planning on taking out remaining Roman cities who are entirely unsuspecting.

Does WLTPD work for growth??

I get the feeling that the game designers are now telling us what a lot of their true intentions were with Civ2.
NO Inc rush buying;
NO super trade/growth stuff;
etc etc...

WE all just used the loopholes to create another game altogether with Civ 2 ; but Civ 3 is really the ultimate diplo game where wars of all scale are necesary. Civ 3 reflects the real world much more closely.

It is brilliant. I think I said that

[Alexander's Horse]

I got a leader and killed one of theirs

The Russians are fighting hard on Chieftain

Much nicking of slaves going on

[War4ever]

Deity i am just plowing through....although i meet with much success, there are plenty of failures...

trying strats on the boards and avoiding others which feel like cheats...

today i learned how to upgrade my units i expect other scrolls of wisdom to fall into my lap anyday now

all in all though, i am having fun with it.... finding it best to pump 8 quick cities and then rush rush rush


Trying all the different civs, the ones i stay away from now are the expansionistic type.....

militaristic and religious seems to be a nice early combo .... the ability to switch to a different govt when the war machine is up and running at full spead makes a big difference....

The name is Fierce. Mr. not so Fierce

[Smash]

we still have unlimited movement on RRs but you need coal and iron to build them.
They also add 1 food to irrigated squares and 1 sheild to mined squares.
RRing and farming have been combined it seems.
Pollution takes alot of worker effort.Dam captured workers aren't as efficient as your own nationality.At least with the worker speed bonus of Democracy.

Cut roads that connect to other enemy cities in captured cities to greatly reduce the chance of defection.Try to connect to your cities at the same time or ASAP to bring in your luxuries and resources.
Don't move large numbers of troops into newly captured cities.Keep them around it.If it defects you won't lose them all and you can retake immediately.So far,it seems defecting cities get 1 defender of the civs units.Your units that might have been inside are gone forever.

holding shift and right clicking on a leader's portrait in the foreign advisor screen will change the civ if you are playing with more than 7 ais.

[Alexander's Horse]

No problems with captured cities here. I just raze them and make them all slaves Then I resettle with my own

[CapTVK]

This reminds me of MP

Slowdown on 966Mhz PIII on Huge Maps

I run a 966Mhz PIII, GeForce2 (64Mb), 256Mb RAM, WinMX machine. When I play the game on huge maps (255x255) w/ 16 civs, it slows down to a crawl between turns.

It goes from no delay to a 1-minute delay in the middle ages. Then it gets worse. I'm currently in 1920 and I have to wait 15-16 minutes for the game to complete the AI moves.

The game is not slow at all on my moves, except when I raze or conquer a city. Then I get a 2-minute delay while the map updates. I have no problems with scrolling or anything like that though.

BTW the save file is up to about 9Mb!

Does anyone know if this is a bug or a feature? And if it's a bug will it be fixed?

Oh Boy, are they in for a surprise when Civ3MP comes out!

[deity]

Originally posted by War4ever
Deity i am just plowing through....although i meet with much success, there are plenty of failures...

trying strats on the boards and avoiding others which feel like cheats...

today i learned how to upgrade my units i expect other scrolls of wisdom to fall into my lap anyday now

all in all though, i am having fun with it.... finding it best to pump 8 quick cities and then rush rush rush


Trying all the different civs, the ones i stay away from now are the expansionistic type.....

militaristic and religious seems to be a nice early combo .... the ability to switch to a different govt when the war machine is up and running at full spead makes a big difference....

The name is Fierce. Mr. not so Fierce

Interesting. I think I'm actually going too slowly. I put my 2nd game on hold as I entered the second tech era as the whole wotrls once again began targetting me!

I think Nappy is right. I can't just use MP approach and not trade techs. I'm way behind tech wise now.

Started a 3rd game as Egyptians all on my own on an ICY island with 6 cities now. I want to see how I can go if I get Lighthouse and use E War Chariots to VISIT other nations.

[War4ever]

Deity i find myself way behind in tech too...... I am playing the Persians and using their unique units.....they are impressive at first.....but long wars are not effective yet for me......

i had to relearn the tech tree and specific buildings as there are some minor tweaks in this department also....

the one nice thing about being persia is that leaders come early and easily....allowing me to pick a wonder and build the FP....

i have noticed the ai puts little effort to build the Colossus...

i am also finding the combat a little weak..... a elite warrior doesn't do very much....... and i am now experimenting with mobile units in the ancient era....... the results are....... interesting and scary at the same time....

i now raze every city except for the capital.......which i keep and try to put the FP in........

i have been holding off on temples now....... instead building granaries and barracks.......so that i can work my slaves harder and quicker to produce my vet immortals....

i have stopped trading early tech with my closest neighbor.... instead trying to isolate and conquer him quick enough that the other civs won't trade my precious techs i give them....

And is it just me or are the horses grouped in bunches yet iron can be very sporadic

well back to playing......

[deity]

Post maps everyone!

I've only created three worlds and this is the third one - Emperor level. Got 6 cities.

By Civ2 standards it sucks but not as bad as first glance suggests. It's also, again, more realistic.

I thought I couldn't irrigate without fresh water but when I put a worker on auto it irrigated that square East of the enclosed coastline, West of my cap. So, does this represent fresh water? It says it's sea.

How does my mess compare with other folks??

Sorry about the colour but I can't get my jpg's to save...

[Rasputin]

sound slike a bug Deity if it can auto irrigate but cant do it manually !!!!

[War4ever]

man my current game is fun...... i am the persians..with no access to iron or many other resources for that matter ....

no golden age but i have rifle and calvalry.......pinned the aztecs..... and have mutual protection with my other two neighbors.....

i assume i will hear from the germans......they along with france one of my partners have overtaken me ..... but if i get the aztec empire i should be fine....

89a turn for iron for 20 turns..... talked him down to a lump sum of 350 adn teh infamous world map

Running tech around 6 a turn 89gold a turn in a rip roaring democracy!! Using the mobilization model to prepare the war machine along with the draft button......

i wish i new the way to revolt without long periods of anarchy.... i have communism and would like to go that route but the period of unrest is killer......its cost me 13turns for two revolutions

Has anyone noticed once your picked on or a tribe is picked on....everyoone unites to wipe him out....

i was able to sign many treaties and rights of passage against the USA who are now officially gone thanks to france....the whole game...and each ai took pot shots at the poor usa.....i gifted techs so they would survive longer.

built the gl..... traded those techs to the others for the 8 techs or so i could do this with......made alot of cash...running 119gold a turn in monarchy.....

buy high off France.... Trade to everyone else....and make around 5-9 gc per turn everytime a new tech reared its proffitable face....
i went from +45 - to + 119 in only a few turns....
just for the record..i wasted 509 shield when i was beat to sistine bach and leos and copernicus by the ai...just in one city.... in another i lost out on pyramids and settled for the FP right beside my cap

Culturlly its easy to absorb cities behind your front lines that sneak in from boats..... i have taken 5 cities culturally now this game.....and no one gets pissed at you when your talking face to face the next turn....

Ok so maybe the game is growing on me a bit..... but why do units sometimes not move their full MP on roads

and i hate having to chop the damm diseased forests down....its driving me bonkers

one more ? then its bedtime...... why can some of my units upgrade but the same units in a different city cannot? does this have to do with cultural takeovers and such?

[Ming]

Originally posted by War4ever
Ok so maybe the game is growing on me a bit..... but why do units sometimes not move their full MP on roads

If the road crosses a river... and you don't have bridges yet

[rah]

why can some of my units upgrade but the same units in a different city cannot? does this have to do with cultural takeovers and such?

War, you need a barracks in the city in order to upgrade troops.


Ming, don't forget to send you picks in today.
BTW, great job on the pen, it worked great on saturday.

Rich