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L-O-L = U Civ'rs are a bunch of crazies!! Don't U have anything better to do than read this stuff??!! Maybe we should start a tabloid to put in the checkout lane racks next to the "Inquirer" & as some1 said, the "Soaps" 
I'll be there for "UN" discussion. It's @ noon Eastern US time(GMT 17:00)?
I'm still inclined to hang tough w/ the Vikings... sort an emotional attachment at this point. Besides, just like Britain at the start of WWII, my island nation's economic base is still intact & stronger than most folks seem to know... the wonders of Democracy & trade.
I feel stronger & stronger about this bad attitudes of AI civ's thing. This sort of contest is tough enuf just working things out w/ the humans involoved. Then the mindless AI comes in & if their attitude hasn't been (re)set, they jump into situations & on to other civ's like it's just another solo game. They have to follow their programming & attack others based on attitudes, natural traits, & who's the strongest civ at that point in the game. Hence, the Sioux attacked the Vikings after denying our emissary several times... because they ended the prior session "enraged" at the Vikings. Then the Viking AI attacks longtime friend, NEVER an enemy, the Japs... because they are the current #1 powergraph civ.
I know it's 1 more administative item that adds "work" to the game, but a diplomatic game = working hard to work with or at least compromise with other civ's. Then to have these relationships go out the door just because a human is not present to run a civ = an even bigger waste of time + is TOTALLY unrealistic.
There is/will never be a way to prevent internal government changes from occuring under AI rule, but we CAN do something about the external attitude/affairs of an AI civ. I think it is imperative that civ's which are going AI need to have some1 go into them & set attitudes toward toher civ's according to their true relationship.
>>> note: my apologies to the JTF & it's comrade ruler for not getting / taking the time to check the Vikings' attitude before dropping. Shows that all players should monitor their attitudes on a fairly regular basis... IT IS VERY important & a MAJOR factor in a close, hard-fought, hard-negotiated MP game.
Because of the above, & despite it setting things back again, i still vote for going back to year that the "Vikings" attacked their long time friends. So that does not happen. I mean, that's like the French attacking the British Expeditionary force while it's in the Low Countries to help save them from the overunning Nazi's!
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To potential / interested subs:
Jump on in & play a part in this "game of the Century".
It's not about just "winning" wars or smashing rival civ's... it's about working to do the best/most with what U have. If U don't have the biggest/strongest civ, that's ok because it's the alliances & "teams" that prevail. All the players on the team get to wear the World Championship rings, not just the biggest or strongest.
And this current conflict doesn't have to end in total destruction of any particular civ... altho, that may be the only solution.
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As for play times:
I'm all for Sundays, anytime day or nite. In fact i'd be willing to get up in early morning hours (like i am now, 04:00)if that will help U guys in Europe.
I'm also good for week nite evenings as early as 20:00 EDT... but i know that's tough on the European leaders. But perhaps a Friday nite/morning could be done(since U'll don't have to go to work the next day)?
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"Last chance this century" so true... kinda amazing that we're almost there. So let's roll on & finish this odessey before Y2K bugs screw up the whole system!!
Nice Blonde/Milo Vikings forever!!
I'll be there for "UN" discussion. It's @ noon Eastern US time(GMT 17:00)?
I'm still inclined to hang tough w/ the Vikings... sort an emotional attachment at this point. Besides, just like Britain at the start of WWII, my island nation's economic base is still intact & stronger than most folks seem to know... the wonders of Democracy & trade.
I feel stronger & stronger about this bad attitudes of AI civ's thing. This sort of contest is tough enuf just working things out w/ the humans involoved. Then the mindless AI comes in & if their attitude hasn't been (re)set, they jump into situations & on to other civ's like it's just another solo game. They have to follow their programming & attack others based on attitudes, natural traits, & who's the strongest civ at that point in the game. Hence, the Sioux attacked the Vikings after denying our emissary several times... because they ended the prior session "enraged" at the Vikings. Then the Viking AI attacks longtime friend, NEVER an enemy, the Japs... because they are the current #1 powergraph civ.
I know it's 1 more administative item that adds "work" to the game, but a diplomatic game = working hard to work with or at least compromise with other civ's. Then to have these relationships go out the door just because a human is not present to run a civ = an even bigger waste of time + is TOTALLY unrealistic.
There is/will never be a way to prevent internal government changes from occuring under AI rule, but we CAN do something about the external attitude/affairs of an AI civ. I think it is imperative that civ's which are going AI need to have some1 go into them & set attitudes toward toher civ's according to their true relationship.
>>> note: my apologies to the JTF & it's comrade ruler for not getting / taking the time to check the Vikings' attitude before dropping. Shows that all players should monitor their attitudes on a fairly regular basis... IT IS VERY important & a MAJOR factor in a close, hard-fought, hard-negotiated MP game.
Because of the above, & despite it setting things back again, i still vote for going back to year that the "Vikings" attacked their long time friends. So that does not happen. I mean, that's like the French attacking the British Expeditionary force while it's in the Low Countries to help save them from the overunning Nazi's!
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To potential / interested subs:
Jump on in & play a part in this "game of the Century".
It's not about just "winning" wars or smashing rival civ's... it's about working to do the best/most with what U have. If U don't have the biggest/strongest civ, that's ok because it's the alliances & "teams" that prevail. All the players on the team get to wear the World Championship rings, not just the biggest or strongest.
And this current conflict doesn't have to end in total destruction of any particular civ... altho, that may be the only solution.
==========================================
As for play times:
I'm all for Sundays, anytime day or nite. In fact i'd be willing to get up in early morning hours (like i am now, 04:00)if that will help U guys in Europe.
I'm also good for week nite evenings as early as 20:00 EDT... but i know that's tough on the European leaders. But perhaps a Friday nite/morning could be done(since U'll don't have to go to work the next day)?
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"Last chance this century" so true... kinda amazing that we're almost there. So let's roll on & finish this odessey before Y2K bugs screw up the whole system!!
Nice Blonde/Milo Vikings forever!!
The persona was selected to reflect a kinder, gentler leadership in the Vikings new, permanent-supporting role. 
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