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  • Tales From The (Still) Diplomatic Front II

    100 posts was taking me a week to load up so I thought we had beat the dead horse enough to get a new thread.

    Just is case we pick up new players (as often has been the case)

    Diplo II Multiplayer game is regularly scheduled at 2pm Eastern DST.

    Diplomatic= no bloodlust= everyone has to figure out solutions to problems so we all will live to see someone reach Alpha-C

    War= someone is going to lose and someone is going to lose more , but it will end.

    No Points= we don't play for point competition only for the hellof it.

    We play Large World Map with Random starting points for 7 humans, at Diety level, 1X Prod 1X move.

    This thread is where we tell the tales of our fun as accurately and/or theatrically as we dare. Enjoy.....

  • #2
    Japanese Trade Federation Daily Post 1400 AD

    JAPANESE TRADE FEDERATION BETRAYED BY CROATS

    Shortly after making a lasting peace with the JTF, the Croats, in the throws of anarchy, broke the peace treaty before the ink even had a chance to dry. Early reports from the front in South America tell of a cunning bribery attempt by a well placed Croat spy. The spy was successful in bribing the musketeer garrison into giving up the northern fortress at Hakodate. It is not known for how much money these traitors were swayed, but Field Marshall Koto declared in a statement today “these vile traitors shall be dealt with in due time.”

    SURPRISED JTF HOME FORCES HAVE THEIR BACKS TO THE WALL!

    After the initial bribery attack by Croat forces north of Hakodate, it was learned that English forces, those that had captured the Croat city in Amazonia, were also persuaded to join in the Croat anarchy. These traitors to England then were used to knock again on the doorsteps of a JTF city. The city of Nagasaki, still recovering its reputation from the blown Chinese espionage scandal, was not persuaded by the new Croat spy. Again the city of Nagasaki was prepared for foreign intrigue as the local diplomat thus persuaded the former English diplomat the error of his ways and quickly taught him JTF communist doctrine. Turned, the Diplomat returned to the Amazonian city on a quest for justice. He was confronted down river by a Dragoon Brigade of his former English comrades. Acting quickly, he told favorable stories of the JTF government and promised them riches if they helped him on his quest. Thus, turned from the Croat anarchy, they returned to destroy once and for all the Croat city plaguing the upper Amazon.

    SCANDAL IN KYOTO AS THE CHAIRMAN LEARNS OF REASON FOR WAR

    Chairman Grau returned from a week long visit to the surrounding cities and promptly fired his Minister of Defense, Comrade Yamato. Despite the apparent turn around success in the War in South America recently, the Chairman discovered the reason why the JTF was surprise attacked by Croat forces. Apparently just before the previous peace treaty with Croatia was signed, the Minister of Defense, who was in charge of handling the retaliations for Mr. AI’s Croat attacks made an arms deal with the English. In this deal the heavily armed English provided an undisclosed number of units to the JTF Expeditionary Forces. These units were loaded onto the fastest JTF ship for insertion into the South American conflict. Fortunately, as they reached the coast, peace was established between Croatia and the JTF. However, war suddenly broke out between the Croats and the English. English forces in South America, once nuetral to the South American Conflict, were now heavily involved in it. As the former English forces were unloaded from their JTF transport, Yamato was approached by the English Defense Minister who promptly asked for them back. Yamato did not give proper instructions to the Expeditionary Force’s General, who stupidly gave the command for all Englishmen to take up their own banner in full view of the Croat garrison at Cempoala. The Croat garrison commander thus reported his sightings back to the capital, where Mr. SmartFart in a fit of rage told his Foreign Minister to break all relations with the JTF. It is also rumored that Mr. SmartFart burned the newly signed peace treaty in front of JTF Ambassador Gota. This can not be confirmed for the Ambassador and his staff have been detained in Croatia pending the outcome of the war. Former Minister Yamato will be beheaded in King Richard’s Square tomorrow.

    CHAIRMAN GRAU IMPOSES EMBARGO ON CROATIA

    Yesterday, Chairman Grau instructed Comrade Toga of the Ministry of Imports and Exports to cease all trade with Croatia. All JTF Caravans are being recalled or redirected in response. The new Minister of Defense Diahatsu has been instructed to sieze all foreign caravans breaking the embargo; either redirecting them or destroying those who do not comply.

    THE HOME FRONT PREPARES ITSELF FOR WAR

    In response to the renewed conflict with Croatia, the Home Minister, has declared rationing on all major goods, including foodstuffs, metals, rubber, lumber, spices and coal. All caravans that have not left the mainland by tomorrow will be detained and redirected to fullfill military needs. Caravans and merchants will now be registered at the Ministry of Defense, likewise all foreign merchants and caravans will need special permits to enter JTF lands and must be accompanied by a military escort. Multiple caravans will not be allowed to travel together in order to save money.

    All Males between the ages of 18 and 38 are advised to go directly to their local Ministry of Defense to register for the predicted military draft. Losses of a majority of the JTF workforce is expected due to the predicted military draft and will need replacing. Therefore, all females over the age of 16 and males over 38 are advised to go directly to the Home Ministry to register for Labor Replacement Squads. More details on the squads will be available at the Home Ministry. Invalids and the elderly over 50 years of age (JTF life expectancy currently 58) need not register, but are expected do their part.

    Labor forces of all kinds are being retooled towards war. Cloth is in high demand in Edo and Matsuyama where the JTF military uniform production shops are located. All citizens are asked to send all spare cloth to these two centers for the uniform production drive. The Nagoya’s Dye Works is also experiencing a shortage created by the heavy demand for new uniform production. The Dye Works manager remarked “We are running out of JTF Green, the demand is up 200% from clothing manufacturers and 300% from everyday citizens wishing to show their JTF pride. However, we still have lots of Yellow dye sitting around and getting in the way of shipments of Green, perhaps Chairman Grau could lift the embargo and we could send it to those yellow Croats”
    *Quotes do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the editors or this newspaper*

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    • #3
      (purposely leaked)...

      <<<< Top Secret >>>> internal memo
      From: Viking Chief of Staff, Eric E.Ericssen
      To: Presdent Milo
      Subject: excessive yakking

      Sir, IMHO, Comade GG of the "JTF" doeth talkth too much.

      Summary:
      Damn man, as a potential ally this guy exhibits some of the symptoms of the "piles-of-paper" style communism that brought down all those type governments on planet earth.
      I am concern that he may be an all-talk-&-no action kinda guy?

      Attachments:
      15-page paralysis-by-analysis briefing on the pro's & con's of this, & other leaders', traits, habits, & mistresses' names & phone #'s (I mite bring your attention to the 1 little seductress that they ALL seem to be spending a lot of time with; a certain "CivII MP"... I am rather concerned, isn't that the same 1 U have been seeing lately?)

      PS: Sir, it is your staff's deepest hope that these world leaders are able to arrive at today's session an hour earlier than the regularly scheduled 17:00GMT summit.
      We have some concerns re: that exact point at which the saved versions of history ended & thus which should begin the next session. We note by the date of Comade GG's latest rambling, er, notice... 1400AD rather than CapTVK's 1420AD version, is the time we believe also to be correct.
      This is a relatively minor matter. However, since the world has erupted into war on several continents & with most of these fools, oops, leaders being a bit touchy at this point in history this should be resolved. Hopely, the great leader of the Sioux, Colon will be back in his rightful place during the upcoming decades as we need our ally's enlightened leadership.
      <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by KenThur (edited July 31, 1999).]</font>
      "Hm-m-m, doubt me you will?"

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      • #4
        me betrayed you?
        is that a joke?
        please limit your comments only to correct statements. otherwise,all this have no sense.
        what will happen if all of us starting to accuse someone for something he didn't commited at all? think about it.

        sf
        My life, my rules

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        • #5
          Open Letter to this world's (current)2 most powerful leaders:

          There seems to be much confusion regarding who did what to whom & especially, where.
          From what I can gather, the problems started & where made worse by the in & out of power of the AI dynasty in Aztec-land.
          It is interesting to note that no matter how enlightened you have managed your country King(?) SF, by selecting an aggressive, militarist race of people to rule; in your absence, your civ reverts back to its native tendencies. This is something that we all should consider (or perhaps some of us did?) in the initial selection of which race we rule in long contests with many human rulers. Since there will be inevitable temporary periods of rule by the "native" rulers.

          Not withstanding the fact that they are not the #1 power, the Sioux & the Chinese civ's have not started conflicts & made aggressive moves toward their neighbors under the rule of their "native" rulers. On the other hand, your natives even declared war on us Vikings & they have not even met us + we are on the other side of the world with absolutely no contact!! :0

          =============================================
          Another point I feel we ALL must address & is a part of your immediate situ; is that of swapping units & also wonders. All rulers should post/present their thots here regarding important points.

          The Viking & President Milo's position is:
          It IS realistic that allies can & do share/assign units to be used & commanded by other than their country of origin.
          It is also realisitic & historically accurate that extrordinary developements are, can be, & have been shared amoung allies.
          What IS NOT, CAN NOT, & HAS NEVER BEEN done is to have the SAME unit or wonder be used by 2 different civ's during the same time period.
          Therefore, it is our position that 2 limitations be placed on these acts of "sharing" that will avoid confusion & more importantly, minimize the distorting & unrealistic effect of these double-use tricks:
          1 &gt; only civ's in FULL alliance can swap units & wonders.
          2 &gt; the same unit or wonder (to the extent possible, given turn sequences & game programming) can not be used twice in any 1 turn.
          This will require a certain amount of "honor system" but we feel it can & must be accomplished even if it slows turns due to timing the swap properly.
          Example; if a unit is to be swapped, it should NOT be moved a 2nd time & perhaps shouldn't even "given" until AFTER the receiving civ's turn is completed.
          Same with wonders. As the recipent of a recent "gift"(i paid for don't worry), i was surprised that it's effects were IMMEDIATE altho I didn't anticipate they would go into effect until MY civ's turn. That being the case, if the original owner had benefited from it during his turn, my civ should not been allowed to accept the "gift" until AFTER my turn.
          Hard but only fair way to do.

          We are NOT in favor of barring these swaps altogether as has been done elsewhere. Besides in this world, the genie is already out of the bottle on both of these tactics.
          ---------------------------------------------
          Your thots, Honorable Leaders of this world... & even those of the "non-aligned/non-involved" civ leaders that may be following this fascinating contest.

          That is all. CYA @ 16:00 GMT ? No later than 17:00.
          <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by KenThur (edited July 31, 1999).]</font>
          "Hm-m-m, doubt me you will?"

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          • #6
            oh please.....how can i be responsible for something what ai did in my absence?
            japanese sunked my ship by sneak-attack 2-3 sessions ago. did i bribed any japanese city in gg's absence? no. there's something we call 'fair play' here. i thot we established some internal rules before our very 1st session (about no cheating of any type,all of them listed in some old thread started by ming). i thot wrong. now i am going to be as mean as i can be. do you know why i choosed to not to build SoL? because i thot we agreed to not to swich wonders.
            japanese gave 2 dragoons in south america to english just to destroy my city. come on...this isn't some limited battle about rome. this is full unprovoked attack against me on several fronts.
            all of you are witnesses when japanese promised that englander will be only japanese city in british isles - he build another one and cede it to russians.
            all of you are witnesses when japanese recognised madagaskar as a part of my empire - he builded city there.
            all of you are witnesses when we made peace after i returned - he moved 2 dragoons into my city radius,then waited for me to finish my turn and gave dragoons to english.
            and now hes talking about me attacked him,before the ink on our peace threaty dried off.
            of course that pissed me off. that's a lie. lies always pissed me off.
            and after all these crimes japanese commited against me i had no choice than fight back.
            and i will assure him i am capable to do more damage to him than he can do to me.

            sf
            My life, my rules

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            • #7
              JAPANESE TRADE FEDERATION DAILY POST

              JAPANESE SOUTH AMERICAN HOME FORCES VICTORIOUS

              The Ministry of Defense announced today that the Japanese Home Forces in South America have succeeded in routing the Croatian’s from the continent. General Daihatsu’s report on the conflit in South America arrived in the capital today. Upon receiving the report, Chairman Grau was heard to remark, “We are pleased by the brilliant strategy of General Daihatsu and will direct him to guarantee the safety of the 40,000 Croatian civilians left on the continent.” Our correspondent in Nagasaki reported that following the destruction of the Croat stronghold in Amazonia, the city of Cempoala was persuaded to join the Japanese Trade Federation. That same year the traitorious musketeer brigade occuping the Hakodate north fortress was besieged and ousted from the fort . The Croatian spy, that had turned the garrison, was beheaded for acts of espionage against the JTF. However, later that year, that retaken fortress was unable to prevent Croatian forces from skirting around the fort in order to occupy Omi. Fortunately, General Daihatsu’s three pronged counter offensive yesterday was able to completely rout the entire Croatian force remaining. The city of Omi was retaken, but at the loss of one JTF musketeer brigade. These are the only reported losses for the JTF in this conflict. The remaining Croatian cities of Chalco and Chiconautla were also taken after minor battles and heavy Croatian casualties.

              ENGLANDERS BEAR THE SUFFERING OF THE WAR

              It has been dubbed the Battle of Englander; the 210,000 citizens of Englander, have been besieged by what has been called Croat Diplo Bombs. “These saboteurs have wreaked havoc in our city,” one Englander described. “We have lost much to these bombers, but we shall hold our ground.” The JTF strategists have become wary over the unconventional warfare strategy waged, by the Croatians. “What they do seems to defy all wisdom of warfare,” Englander Home Force General Ito responded. “The South American campaign was easy, cannon batteries blasted musketeer garrisons and dragoon brigades rode in to clean up. This situation will require new strategy, but we will improvise and prevail.”

              TRADE ABOUNDS DESPITE WAR

              JTF merchants have stepped up trade to meet the growing demands of war. Merchants have done their best to prevent shortages in goods from occuring all over the Federation. Revenue generated from these new routes have helped fund the anti-bribery campaign. “Bribery has been rampant ever since this conflict ensued, warfare has never been so boring” Chairman Grau refected recently in his national address. “Future civilizations must consider limiting the ultimate power that one man could have.” (i.e. Civilization 3!!)

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              • #8
                The New English Times: issue 5

                JAPANESE BLITZ FORCES AZTECS OUT OF SOUTH AMERICA!
                In a succesfull three pronged land/naval attack Japanese forces quickly seize Aztec colonies near the coast. The rapid speed by which the JTF forces moved took the Aztecs totally by surprise. After the loss of their major harbour (Cempola) up north the Aztec(Croatian) forces launched their own offensive by bribing the garrison at Omi. After their succesfull surprise raid the Aztecs were content to sit things out and started to dig themselves in. That the JTF forces would be able to mobilize their forces so quickly even surprised our English military observer in SA. "They simply walked over them, they've been caught with their guard down!" and "that Japanese general deserves a medal for this!" were some of the memorable phrases he uttered.

                Our reporter in Chalco observed how remaining Aztecs forces made a mad dash for the last ship as JTF dragoons were ready to enter the city. One battle doesn't win the war however, the siege of Englander and the war in southern Europe still continue...

                ISTANBUL REDUCED TO RUBBLE AS FIGHTING CONTINUES
                The battle for Istanbul comes to an end as English forces finally remove the last vestige of Aztec power in Turkey. The battle was fought as hard on the ground as it was fought on the sea. Observers have noted that the Aztecs seems to prefer a more covert form of warfare than a fight in the open: 'bribing and sabotage by enemy agents' seems to be their game. Both land and sea units were captured this way, but their strategy didn't help them in the end. English dragoons finally destroyed the artillery units that the Aztec's had bribed near Istanbul and the remainder of their fleet was destroyed by English naval forces. The Aztecs will be hardpressed to enter the Mediterranean now...

                --------------------------
                news from the front
                --------------------------
                Aztec forces fail to oust English troops
                Once again an offensive by the Aztecs with artillery support on English positions in the Pyrenees has failed. Although our troops were under pressure, they stood their ground. The successful defense, lead our present leader CapTVK to quote : "When the chips are down you can always count on English soldier to pull trough"...


                JTF have entered the Mediterranean
                The first japanese ironclad to arrive doesn't have to wait long for action, it quickly destroyed a ship near Istanbul. This also marks the first naval contact with Aztec forces since the war started. It won't be the first contact for long as other JTF forces are steaming up the Suez canal.

                --------------------------
                In other news
                --------------------------
                Markets are up as war continues
                Some say that in war there are only losers and no winners. But that doesn't count for
                traders! Business and industry is booming everywhere as banks and marketplaces open up to fund the war effort. "Trade has been up 25% since the war started and going still strong!" mentioned a happy banker in Hastings. He has his reasons to be happy as Hastings has become a hotspot for caravans all around the world.


                Cartographers meet in London
                Surveyors and cartographers from all around the world meet in London for the very first
                time. The plan is to make a world catalogue of every map in existence and publish them (The NET has already acquired the rights). Mapmaking has been done a for a long time but the fact that mapmakers are ready to publish their own creations is quite unique. Another plan is to make a map that shows how civilizations have changed through the ages. Our reporter has already seen some of the maps and he's been quite impressed by the work. The English times hopes to publish these maps soon so that the rest of the
                public will gain a better geopolitical insight in worldaffairs.

                <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by CapTVK (edited August 02, 1999).]</font>
                Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.

                Elie A. Shneour Skeptical Inquirer

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                • #9
                  Moscow Mule,3rd August.

                  EDITORIAL.
                  In times of drastic world change the fine Russian Democracy has been forced to take a back seat and merely observe the increasing world tension and violence.
                  The Russian leader Pastieman II was recently caught sleeping as the underworld conspirator and sometime ruler of every civ, the AI, sneaked a decade of control whilst Pastieman struggled with his technology.
                  Having hardly any game time, very little was achieved apart from a misdirected caravan and a couple of tech acquisitions.
                  Pasti II is hoping for a more fufilling experience next time, hoping to send aid to war torn allies who's struggle to contain the 'yellow peril' is so far going well.
                  Cigars and Champagne have been sent to minister Grau Geist of the JTF and his generals in recognition of his efforts to maintain a new world order, and similar gifts and congratulations are winging themselves toward the fearless strategician CapTVK. Aid is still being sent, and will continue to do so after negotiations with SF failed this week.

                  CEASE FIRE NEGOTIATIONS COLLAPSE.
                  After a request for a cease of hostilities by Pasti II to SF, a summit was held between the two leaders to reach a compromise. From the start however the Aztecs demands were unacceptably high, asking for the loan of a key city and respected inventor Leonardo DaVinci's services in trust, when none exists between the two nations. No concessions were offered by Pasti II whose argument for a cease-fire was based skillfully around the Aztecs ability to maintain a war effort on so many borders. His rejection of this proposal was followed by heavy losses, most notably in S.America where his nation suffered a complete 'ethnic cleanse' and was banished from the continent. The Russian select commitee still holds to it's belief that the Aztecs cannot fight all these civs at once, but the door of peace is closing and patience is all but exhausted.

                  MILITARY NEWS.
                  Without a single unit lost, the brave Russian army continues to be one of the most modern and well equipped despite it's apparent small size. General Mattovskii of the Kraigugawa defence unit was quoted saying "The Russian army may be small, but it is perfectly formed. Our great engineer and inventor Leonardo DaVinci is keeping our units state of the art, and it is this that prevents our enemies from striking. Fear of an army so great it is yet to cede a single unit in open warfare is our greatest defence".
                  A rebel barbarian leader was captured outside Yakust recently, after two ill informed dragoons made a fruitless strike on the city and a garrison of riflemen fortified outside. He was ransomed for 150 gold and after days of interrogation he was found not to be a spy and released back to his rebel base, limping and with one eye badly swollen.

                  ECONOMY UPDATE.
                  A caravan made a wrong turn and ended up delivering Gold from Sevastapol to Nagoya, despite been dispatched to Edo, where gold is desperatly needed by the Japenese Mr.T fanclub. Secretary of trade and industry Vlad the Importer has been sacked following a loss in much needed revenue and trade bonuses.
                  Elsewhere caravans heading for Viking territory are on voyage but apparently taking an age to deliver luxury goods to the Merchant Prince Milo's people. There are hopes for long term allies the English to sign a trade pact with the Russian import/export agency, and negotiations and units are well under way.
                  Follow your spirit, and upon this charge Cry 'God for Harry, England and Saint George!

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                  • #10
                    My deepest apologies for my absence Saturday, I'm not usre what happened, but for 3 days I was simply unable to go online.
                    It seems that I yet again missed a lot and I'm afraid I'll be missing more because I won't be available next Saturday, I'll try to find a replacement. (if anyone else has one please notify)

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                    • #11
                      The New English Times: issue 5 extra edition

                      As promised an overview of the world as we know it. Some people say a picture says more that a 1000 words. In this case it's true, this animated gif shows how the situation changed from 1380 till now (1460).

                      Note: This thread isn't really supposed for placing images (although I made it as small as possible). So'll replace it on a later date with a link....

                      Image removed to speed up loading times of this thread but you can still view the images on:


                      &lt;font size=1 face=Arial color=444444&gt;[This message has been edited by CapTVK (edited September 03, 1999).]&lt;/font&gt;
                      <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by CapTVK (edited November 24, 1999).]</font>
                      Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.

                      Elie A. Shneour Skeptical Inquirer

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                      • #12
                        I will be out of town this Saturday. That's a lot of missing players. Might want to lock up the saved game files until we get a replacement for SF that he finds acceptable.

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                        • #13
                          Equipment delays cause late publishing of the Viking Sentinel. But for the late news from down under...

                          Unfortunately a short session that saw much action in the war department + the rapid development of our northern cities & our heretofore weak military.

                          As openly & repeatedly warned here & thru direct diplomatic chats, the Viking leadership had to take action to contain the aggressive southward expansion of the Chinese empire. The city they so brazenly estalished adjacent to our north frontier was taken through the combined arms of our new ally, the most honorable & generous JTF, led by the masterful dynasty of now comrade GG!! The JTF navy "softened up" the city by eliminating the ragtag musketer the Chinese had stationed there. Then our newly improved (thanks to our fine friends from the other side of the the glode, the Russian Pastie dynasty)dragoons blew away the diplomat they had there {hm-m-m, wonder why) & marched victoriously into take control the this area which is reasonably the Vikings to develop... NOT the Chinese & their big backer, the Aztec/Croats.
                          It remains to be seen whether the real Chinese, Geronimo, will come back to control himself & his peoples to avoid futher bloodshed in this region he & his aggressive ally & AI second-in-command.

                          Unfortunately, our senate did not agree with President Milo's thoughtful rejection of the mindless Chinese AI's offer for peace.
                          Milo is quoted as saying "These politicians simply do NOT understand the importance of keeping the military options open with regard to the manifest destiny of our northern regions' development!"
                          Thus our government & economy are temporarily in a state of flux, that may necessitate a new form in the coming years.

                          Trade in gold & tech's fourished during this time of rapid military build up to the benifit of our most grateful populous & the excellent allies of the Russian & Japanese civ. We were able to do several mutually benifical deals & are all the better for them!

                          We again had only brief contact with the brilliant leader, CapTV of the gutsy Engish.

                          And we do SORELY miss the enlightened leadership of our 1st & favorite ally, Consul Colon of the Great Sioux civ. We ahve read of his communications difficulties & we earnstly hope these are worked out & that he can come to power once again. For these are times that try men's (game)souls!

                          Editor's Note: We are amazed & MOST impressed by the English press' map-projecting abilities. Most excellent & accurate! We thank you for your hard work & ingenuity.

                          To the Staff: Did U slobs see what that English rag published, now U either get with-it technologically, or we will find some publishers that can!! Do i make myself clear!? English, of all people! Hurphf!
                          "Hm-m-m, doubt me you will?"

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                          • #14
                            English World Review: Nr.1

                            The English Ministery of Foreign Affairs

                            This is the current strength in 1460:
                            • Russians (16 cities) Pasti2 Size: Medium
                            • Japanese (22) GrauGeist Size: Large
                            • Vikings (11) Kenthur Size: Small
                            • Aztecs (22) *open* Size: Large
                            • Chinese (17) Geronimo Size: Medium
                            • English (11) CapTVK Size: Small
                            • Sioux (15) Colon Size: Medium


                            The Aztecs are still at a loss by the sudden departure of their leader SmartFart. Will someone be able to take his place? Time will tell...

                            <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by CapTVK (edited August 13, 1999).]</font>
                            Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.

                            Elie A. Shneour Skeptical Inquirer

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                            • #15
                              Ok I see you've been taking my cities while my civ was under AI control. After so many sessions under AI control I was ready to quit this game a loooonng time ago, but I kept at it because I thought I owed it to SF. However I did not like the idea of previously agreed and recognized borders being arbitrarily altered in my absence and then dealing with indignation when I try to assert control over a small corner of the stolen territory. This was supposed to be a 'diplomatic game' right? well I don't think it is usual foreign policy for borders to get changed without completing a replacement formal agreement. There really never was a shred of justification given for unilaterally changing these borders. Instead i was just lamely informed that it had to be done to keep the japanese from doing it instead. It just baffles me that nobody seemed to have any problem with the vikings just up and settling all over my territory and making border adjustments and attacking my civ when I was absent. But if i build a city 6 squares from my capitol in land that was formally agreed by all involved parties to have belonged to me and to which I *never* relinquished my claims and which did not overlap with any viking city, I find everybody pretending that this is somehow hostile and provacative. What a crock. Anyway I don't think I'll miss this game so much, given the curse of technical difficulties that plagued me in it from the get-go. I'm actually a little grateful to SF for letting me off the hook. I may accept substitution duty later if it is requested, but only if I am reasonably sure my connection will be working well and if I am given a chance to learn what the precisely what the diplomatic situation is with any civ I sub for. Anyway, the game wasn't all that bad. Not all the way through at least, and quitting formal commitment now is probably a good way for me to avoid harboring any ill-feelings. Look at the bright side, the Chinese were an AI controlled civ when I joined so I kept it in human player control for a few sessions that would have otherwise been one long uninterupted AI reign.

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