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**rah** · May 9, 2003, 08:15

I would really like to know where people get the idea that we play 2x2x king. Most of the americans that post here very very rarely play it. All our group plays is 2x1x deity. Duels are not that popular, and we don't usually play on premade maps. If you're looking to play EYES AND STRAT who do, good luck.

**Hydey** · May 9, 2003, 08:18

Aussie group usually plays 1x1x deity

**Ming** · May 9, 2003, 08:22

War4ever plays 1x1x Deity... but I'm not sure who else in our group likes to

**rah** · May 9, 2003, 08:57

I will say that I've played many more 1x1x deity games then 2x2x king. (which is easy since I've only played 2x2x king maybe twice)

**Ming** · May 9, 2003, 09:04

I would say the same... I'm not a big fan of games at lower than Deity settings... And I can't stand what 2x movement does to combat... Cats that can land off a ship and attack on the same turn just seems SOOOOOOO unrealistic

**rah** · May 9, 2003, 09:08

Yes, both 2x2x king games that I remember where when I was asked to sub after the start of a game. I was obviously subbing for someone that got an awlful start and quit. In one of them, I laughed when I saw what I had but said what the heck, let's see how it goes. 4 turns, in 8 elephants charge from the black and my only two cities went down in flames. That was FUN.

RAH

**War4ever** · May 9, 2003, 09:50

i love x1x1 ...but i play x2x1 with "the twins" b/c they make the games enjoyable and i do have limited time.
if i could freely play and sway the vote, my vote would be for x1.....

the german league has many good players

but i think more appropriate title should be, german league vs zone....b/c that is where the x2x2 crowd comes from origionaly

**Cobra** · May 9, 2003, 10:06

I have limited time, too.
Couldn´t you find 4 other guys to play against us?

**atawa** · May 9, 2003, 12:22

Re: Comparison fight US Apolyton vs. German league.

Originally posted by Cobra
In my opinion you Americans at Apolyton are strong on 2x2xking, but have however deficits in 1x1xdeity. But you don´t want to realize that. I suggest therefore the following: We make a comparison fight. 5 of your players play duels against 5 of our players. The duels are to take place on a premade, fair map. The map could make one the Australian or Englishman (Alexanders Horse?). Also with Dr. spike I would agree, if he does not wanna play for himself. Thus we could clarify this thing. What´s your opinion?

As a European who usualy plays on civmad this was not directed at me but anyway:

There are not that much 2x2x king players here, we usualy hang out in civmad since they killed the zone

And of all players I know who play 2x2x king only Sean claims to rule on 1x1x Deity, witch he 'kinda' proved when this thing last arose, The duel against Odeo.
(Although with a start with spice and Peat on a river it is hard to loose

)

Most 2x2xking players rather go outside to watch the grass grow then to play 1x1x Deity, I play some but only in the saturday morning diplo

Anyway,1x1x Deity would fairly easy be won by you guys, and since your best player Woke usualy gets his ass kicked these days playing 2x2x king this doesnt seems to be a challenge.

Why dont we make it interesting and play a teamgame 3v3, 2x1x Emp, zone against german liga?

**atawa** · May 9, 2003, 12:24

Re: Comparison fight US Apolyton vs. German league.

Originally posted by Ming
And I can't stand what 2x movement does to combat... Cats that can land off a ship and attack on the same turn just seems SOOOOOOO unrealistic

Well there must be some compensation for the easy defending on mountains in 2x production dont you think?

**War4ever** · May 9, 2003, 12:33

If time(zones) weren't such a prob, i would gladly play my european rivals in x1.....the way the game was meant to be played

**max69** · May 9, 2003, 12:35

hmmm it would be interesting to see if we are now stronger than the americans. When I started playing mp 2 years ago, I got the best hints from this forum. But the gameplay changed much during the time in Germany. It is now a very agressive game, duells with 1x1x diety on a medium map without citybribe is the most popular setting now. The warheads became the strongest players.
I look forward to see if you guys can handle our strategies.

**StrategicKingMi** · May 9, 2003, 15:12

*Sigh* what strategies are there for 1 x deity??
Wait, I have one, staying awake...
you Germans would be owned by me in 2 x 2 king. I have evolved to unbeatable status on a premade boards. Flight by 800 bc in my latest game with martin and all his poor clads caught by surprise first by my sub infested coast and then by my gigantic airforce.
Ming just shows how limited his idea of this game is talking about catapults moving 2. Hogwash! I am now playing with subs, tanks, marines, fighters and massed fanatics with tons of engineers to fort and build RR's!
If you Germans who think they have advanced past us pathetic American Civ players, step into my world and get a free education.

**Ming** · May 9, 2003, 15:50

Originally posted by StrategicKingMi
Ming just shows how limited his idea of this game is talking about catapults moving 2.

And you show how limited your overall thinking is by not realizing that was just an example

I see nothing has changed... SK and his typical Blah blah post on how he's the greatest. Not willing to play on other settings because his one trick pony strategy doesn't work on them... degrading people that don't play his settings... nothing new here

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