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  • is it my turn soon?
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

    Hydey the no-limits man.

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    • It's now past quitting time in the UK. Scousers should soon be getting sloshed, turns played and saves posted.
      (\__/) Save a bunny, eat more Smurf!
      (='.'=) Sponsored by the National Smurfmeat Council
      (")_(") Smurf, the original blue meat! © 1999, patent pending, ® and ™ (except that "Smurf" bit)

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      • Hoping we might play both turns in one drunken haze.

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        SG(2)
        "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
        "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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        • Have fun, you Gits! Oh, and

          HAPPY BIRTHDAY HYDEY!!!
          Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
          RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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          • Hemisphere/timezone chauvinism strikes again…

            Doh, of course! It's already the 26th there. Actually, almost the 27th!

            Happy Birthday from SpaceGhost, Hydey!
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            (\__/) Save a bunny, eat more Smurf!
            (='.'=) Sponsored by the National Smurfmeat Council
            (")_(") Smurf, the original blue meat! © 1999, patent pending, ® and ™ (except that "Smurf" bit)

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            • The drunken gits managed three bottles in four hours and have completed a grand total of seven turns! We are now in celebrating Commie and in the process of removing the Germans - SG(2) will now do another 6 or so turns and pass onto SG[1] to finish off our 20 turns - probably post on Monday...

              Happy birthday Hydey

              See you soon guys

              The SGs well lubricated
              "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
              "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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              • Speaking of Monday...
                That's today, 28-10, and that's... -Jrabbit's birthday!

                * -Jrabbit after celebrating on the golf course with Ming. *
                Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                • Many happy returns, -Jrabbit

                  Monday has been and gone and no game from SG(2) - he must be having a micromanagment orgy - I will post as soon as I have had the game ...

                  SG[1]
                  "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                  "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                  • I'm playing now - will post tomorrow

                    SG[1]
                    "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                    "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                    • The Gits Return

                      The Friday Night Stragegic Drinking Society (Liverpool Section)

                      1650 = Crawl on hands and knees to Celts and get Chivalry and maps; Crawling to the Germans gave peace, Magnetism. Atomic Theory and Theory of Gravity, oh yes and maps; not particularly surprisingly, the Egyptians are delighted to share maps with crawling Mongols; the Chinese won't talk to us - sad!; thanks Stray - we just spent 1000g on one or two white goods...; Attempts at suicide by leaving our capital totally unprotected have been thwarted by alert Gits!
                      1660 = hut yields VotesForWomen!; The noble Chinese are pleased to gift us with Warrior Code and Feudalism to overcome our appalling lack of scientific knowledge - they are now our staunch allies! Now 7,000,000 loyal Mongols
                      1670 = more white goods and a caravan! - our navy has been somewhat depleted by massive disbanding!
                      1680 = even more white goods; population 8,000,000; Chinese dissolve alliance - so sad!
                      1690 = the hard decision as to whether to go Commie or Demo in 1700 was solved - the Germans sneak attacked - read many, many dead Germans converted to the glories of Communism!
                      1700 = Communism established; Frankfurt realises the error of its ways
                      1710 = No Lady founded;

                      _______________SG(2) continues____________________________________________

                      1720 = 9,000,000 population;Sans Eiffel founded; Gems to One Wonders 41g;
                      1730 = RatsJust as the Presidium was about to issue the orders for an attack on Konigsberg it goes and builds Leo's! Silk to Konigsberg 99g; Gold to Not the Gardens 38g; Gems to Not the Gardens 48g (Caravans being sent here instead of One Wonders to release supply commodities in NtG ... it now supplies Oil)
                      1740 = Espionage Explosives next (Corporation our next target is the joker) Leipzig captured 208g plundered; Wine to NtG 35g
                      1750 = Germans use Great Wall to enforce a Cease Fire! Caravans 38/23g for internal railroaded routes.
                      1752 = Leipzig builds City Walls; More small caravan returns for large railway routes. Hides to Konigsberg 99g. Not the Gardens has 3 x 12 routes with One Wonders.

                      _______________Now SG[1]_____________________________________________

                      1752 = Change one Ironclad to Spy
                      1754 = Germans declare war rather than give tribute; Heidelburg joins the Praesidium;
                      1756 = Egyptians land two caravans and declare war!; Population 10,000,000; Egyptian caravans blown away; Germans declare war again; Hambourg captured;
                      1758 = Egyptians land elephant and kill two settlers - I have nver seen the AI choose to attack units rather than a city before ... ; Rape of Konigsberg commences - two spies lost; Egyptian Elephant seeks happy hunting ground;
                      1760 = Rape of Konigsburg continues without loss; trade continues; Manhatten Fail founded;
                      1762 = Konigsburg now down to 6, two spies lost; German cities buy white goods; several caravans ready to go into Berlin; Explosives next turn; Another Egyptian caravan destroyed.

                      The game is looking good, for my money we eliminate Konigsburg, buy the other two non-Berlin German cities and switch back to Demo for a few growth cycles -- but it is your call - go for it...

                      SG[1]
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                      "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                      "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                      • Re: The Gits Return

                        Originally posted by Scouse Gits
                        The Friday Night Stragegic Drinking Society (Liverpool Section)

                        SG[1]
                        ... a little "Stragegic", a lot "drinking"!
                        googol... this is a number!
                        "Silence Ming. I will let you know when I feel you are needed." - HappySunShine
                        "Classic Eyes...But in reality, it works the other way around." - Ming

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                        • Re: The Gits Return

                          FINALLY!
                          Spurious lagomorphic comments and questions follow...
                          Originally posted by Scouse Gits
                          The Friday Night Stragegic Drinking Society (Liverpool Section)
                          The Gits honor the Friday night tradition. Duly noted. Please note that, for security reasons, our official name is the Strategic Gaming Society, as our ultimate goal is to legitimize this life-affirming activity to the point where it becomes a viable resume item.

                          1650 = Celts..Chivalry and maps; Germans gave peace, Magnetism. Atomic Theory and Theory of Gravity, oh yes and maps; ...Egyptians... share maps with Mongols
                          We must have a pretty complete worldview by now.
                          Question -- Is it true that map trades require a "worshipful" relationship? Always seems to for me...

                          ...we just spent 1000g on one or two white goods...
                          Question -- What are "white goods? (Guess I'll learn when I get the d/l home)

                          1720 = Gems to One Wonders 41g;
                          1730 = Silk to Konigsberg 99g; Gold to Not the Gardens 38g; Gems to Not the Gardens 48g
                          1740 = Wine to NtG 35g
                          1750 = Caravans 38/23g for internal railroaded routes.
                          1752 = More small caravan returns for large railway routes. Hides to Konigsberg 99g. Not the Gardens has 3 x 12 routes with One Wonders.
                          Question -- What happened to the payoff scale on our routes? Overseas deliveries roughly half of before. I'm here to learn, so -- pourquoi, s'il vous plait?
                          Question -- Internal vs. external trade routes. How does one decide what makes sense?
                          Question -- On internal routes, is there any benefit to the recipient city?

                          1758 = Egyptians land elephant and kill two settlers - I have nver seen the AI choose to attack units rather than a city before
                          This just happened to me in my current SP game. I hit revert a couple times and it seems to be true only when the units are settlers or vans. When I took down City Walls, the city was attacked. The civ involved was the Russians (aggressive militaristic treaty-breakers, they are). (Insufficient research, I know. But at least I can confirm your experience and provide a data point.)

                          Great job, boys! Looks like much fun was had and considerable grape consumed.
                          Responses from any local denizens re my newb questions appreciated.

                          ...and it looks like VLAD ANTLERKOV is next.
                          Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                          RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                          • An attempt at lagomorphic education:

                            White goods are city improvements - they show white in the F1 window and are (by us) generically entitled laundrettes - our philosophy is that the production of a city is too valuable to be tied up for 40 turns building a bank for example and that as soon as any shields show in the box they should be bought - obviously an overgeneralisation, but none the less a reasonable policy.

                            Yes we now have a very reasonable world map.

                            At Worshipful you will get maps, but you can get them at lower rating, particularly before 1750 when the ceiling falls in.

                            We are in the 'Trade Doldrums' we have all the trade killers and none of the enhancements - we need Freights badly

                            Experience and luck - now that our home continent is fairly thoroughly railroaded the internal routes give the railroad bonus and hence have very good ongoing trade value - 12 arrows between our two major cities - our overseas routes are depressed for several reasons - not least because we now own many of the former German trading partners - but also because of the trade doldrums mentioned above

                            Yes - both cities get the augmented ongoing trade benefit (if both optimal routes exist) - we tend to ensure this by RRing the entire continent.

                            Aside: We find that on entering the Society the sign clearly reads 'Gaming'. but mysteriously it changes its syntactic content sometime during the evening

                            SG[1]
                            "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                            "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                            • Nicely played.

                              Still have some questions, but I suspect I'd be best served by a trip to the GL first. Well, maybe a quick one would be OK -- What are the "trade killers:?

                              Thanx, [1].

                              * -Jrabbit makes note to attend a meeting of the Liverpool local in the fullness of time. *
                              Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                              RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                              • -Jrabbit ... in Scouse speak "Der trade killer is yer Railroad which makes dem camel bonuses less...like, now yous gotta wait until Corporation to cop dem freights which make bonuses smart again"

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                                SG(2)
                                "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                                "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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