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  • Thanks, but I think I'll keep my secession

    Yeah the one terms apply to the CEC (the number of whom can vary according to need) They pretty much do all the bureaucracy and petty arguing

    While STAVKA (the commanders being appointed by the CEC indefinitely until the CEC wants to change them) talk about general strategy and tactics (though the CEC is welcome to put in input too) and they choose an outdsider, non-front commander as Marshal indefinitely until they choose to sack him.
    Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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    • The People will be persuaded to like the proposal.

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      • Originally posted by El Awrence
        The People will be persuaded to like the proposal.
        Yes we have ways of doing that, especially since I believe we need a KGB guy on the CEC.

        *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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        • Did you recieve my message, Marshal?
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          Xenozodskyovitchkov, retired Commander of the 1st Ukrainian Front.
          Recipient of the Medal for Accomplishment in IRC Chat

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          • Originally posted by Xenozod
            Did you recieve my message, Marshal?
            Yes and Im working on your request, have you read this thread?
            *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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            • Only the last few messages. I will proceed to now.
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              • I favour the revised version of STAVKA - a military council, and a separate civilian council.

                In terms of what role each would play - I agree, it makes more sense for the civilian council to make grand strategy decisions (what should the tax rate be? do we advance on a broad front, or a concentrated thrust to Berlin? Do we sack the Marshal? etc.) - and the front commanders to make tactical calls.

                There'd have to be a balance betweem the role of the civilian council and the general voting citizenry, and I'm not quite sure how that would work.

                I'd also say that it doesn't make a lot of sense for the general commanding a sector to be setting build orders for cities - that would more likely be the job of a civilian commissar - but that's probably impractical.
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                • I favor Anzacs proposal, as long as CEC members are voted in rather than appointed. However, I am confused, can the Marshal no longer commision new commanders or just that he can not stick them in Stavka?
                  Last edited by EZRhino; May 12, 2003, 03:22.
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                  • These sound like good ideas but with all these orginisations I think we could do with separate sub-forums for STAVKA and the CEC so each orginisation can hold plently of votes and separate topics of disscusion without totaly cluttering and confusing the main forum.
                    Grenski Timyfovich Sladkov, People's Armaments Commisar of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and winner of the Valient Labor Medal.

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                    • Originally posted by greeny
                      These sound like good ideas but with all these orginisations I think we could do with separate sub-forums for STAVKA and the CEC so each orginisation can hold plently of votes and separate topics of disscusion without totaly cluttering and confusing the main forum.
                      I dont think we are big enough for our britches yet to get sub forums! However I see us getting another sticky thread for the CEC. We already have one for STAVKA. One more wont make much difference. At least not IMHO.
                      *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                      • Originally posted by conmcb25
                        At least not IMHO.
                        Is my memory for internet acronyms failing me or did our Marshal just call his opinion "humble"!
                        Grenski Timyfovich Sladkov, People's Armaments Commisar of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and winner of the Valient Labor Medal.

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                        • Originally posted by greeny


                          Is my memory for internet acronyms failing me or did our Marshal just call his opinion "humble"!
                          ERR, Umm, well, .............

                          Oh I know I was speaking as conmcb25, not the Marshall! Whew that was a close one, I almost ruined my entire Marshall Image!
                          *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                          • CEC councilmen are voted on by the whole community. They in turn appoint front commanders, and the front commanders select someone else to be marshal. At least this is how I see it. I think we have the general idea down though
                            Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                            • fixed that
                              Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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