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    Gentlemen:

    This is my first poll/thread as your Minister of War so try to be gentle.

    Let me get straight to the point. It is my opinion that the defenses we currently have in our cities are fairly paper thin given the fact that our closest rival, the Celts, is researching ironclads. Given our relative position on the power graph, it is likely to assume that they will be used against us.

    Here are my recommendations to remedy this situation:

    a) Given how close we are to getting Metallurgy, I propose that, as soon as we are able, we work coastal fortresses into the build queue of the cities a reasonable distance from the Celts.
    b) In the mean time I suggest that we add another musketeer to the current average of 2 in our cities.

    I’ll leave the issue to your collective wisdom.

    Regards,
    Your Minister of War
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    The powers of our Great Banana will protect us from harm!
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  • #2
    do not forget that the muskets will be rifles soon enough
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    Hydey the no-limits man.

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    • #3
      a) Given how close we are to getting Metallurgy, I propose that, as soon as we are able, we work coastal fortresses into the build queue of the cities a reasonable distance from the Celts.
      Excellent plan

      b) In the mean time I suggest that we add another musketeer to the current average of 2 in our cities.
      Since our musks arent vets becouse most of them upgraded, we might considder making a push for conscription

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      • #4
        Originally posted by atawa
        Since our musks arent vets becouse most of them upgraded, we might considder making a push for conscription
        Even better.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #5
          Re: Ministry of War report

          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          Gentlemen:

          Given how close we are to getting Metallurgy, I propose that, as soon as we are able, we work coastal fortresses into the build queue of the cities a reasonable distance from the Celts.

          Apologies if I'm repeating myself , but a sound strategy of war is to make the enemy fight you at a place of your choosing. If we build (or capture) one or two cities which are located between our mainland and the Celts' mainland, it is likely that when war breaks out, the Celts will attack there first, and continue to focus a disproportianate amount of effort there simply because it's easier than travelling twice the distance to get to our mainland. We might then have to build coastal fortresses/extra defenders in fewer cities, and run less risk of our defensive forces being spread out trying to cover many possible skirmish sites .
          "It's not about whether you win or lose, it's about how many people you can slaugher playing the game...." - BruceTheStupid, 2400BC.

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          • #6
            Now that we are in Democracy, and don't have corruption problems, it wouldn't hurt to have a couple of outpost cities that are defense-oriented to attract incipient Celtic agressiveness. I like Bruce's suggestion.

            We placed a city near the Japanese to watch their expansion; we can do the same with the Celts while staying in a defensive posture.

            One of these 2 locations might work well (and the one to the right is on a hill).
            Attached Files
            Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
            Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
            Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
            Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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            • #7
              Minister of War DinoDoc - I personally like Coastal Fortresses; use them often. I love to lure the AI Civs into naval techs and then let them find I have the coastal fortresses and they don't.

              But I think it is early for that. We can build coastal fortresses faster than the Celts can build and send Ironclads if and when we need to. We have other more basic city improvements to build first, is all I mean. Marketplaces, Libraries, etc...

              I think we are WAY behind on the city improvement schedule, and there are things we had better do before the Coastal Fortresses even though I want those also.

              Do we really need more than 2 Musketeers per city right now (and many have more)? I'm concerned with our low shield production and the additional units would reduce that already low value. We should have most cities up to 12-15 shields per turn by now and they are not.

              Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
              Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
              Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
              Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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              • #8
                It was a good poll, BTW, DinoDoc. The choices were clear, and you got the Banana involved.

                Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cavebear
                  One of these 2 locations might work well (and the one to the right is on a hill).
                  Do we have an indication of these possible locations on a bigger map?
                  "It's not about whether you win or lose, it's about how many people you can slaugher playing the game...." - BruceTheStupid, 2400BC.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BruceTheStupid


                    Do we have an indication of these possible locations on a bigger map?
                    Does this help? Panama City is in the lower left.
                    Attached Files
                    Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                    Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                    Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                    Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                    • #11
                      Nice plan but:

                      Time out:0 days...
                      I think this has to be fixed...
                      Former President, Vice-president and Foreign Minister of the Apolyton Civ2-Democracy Games as 123john321

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                      • #12
                        The hill-location on the right looks excelent, a whale for arrows/happyness and 2 foodspecials

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                        • #13
                          Re: Re: Ministry of War report

                          Originally posted by BruceTheStupid
                          Apologies if I'm repeating myself , but a sound strategy of war is to make the enemy fight you at a place of your choosing.
                          I would love to go on the offensive with the Celts but the pervailing sentiment seems to be against that.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Globaly, OK with hard defended cities near the Celts.
                            The location near whales and on a nill (to be mined before city building) is good.
                            But why more musks? Or only in coastal cities ?
                            JCP
                            Paris, FRANCE

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                            • #15
                              Could we bribe some of the Celtic cities? This would be
                              more cost-effective, and their ancient units will upgrade to riflemen soon after we capture a city. Hydey, how much is this likely to cost?

                              This way, we could direct the Celts' attention to defending their homeland, rather than building 'Clads. An additional bonus would be reducing their powergraph ranking.

                              I don't know if this violates the spirit of our
                              nation or not, but I think this could save us many hassles in the long run.
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