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Originally posted by cavebear
We have forbidden ourselves the advantages of representative governments.
(I think after we get Fundi, and develop ourself to something that actually can be considered a civ , we might consider trying to go for Communism,to get rid of the science handicap)ex-president of Apolytonia former King of the Apolytonian Imperium
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we might consider trying to go for Communism,to get rid of the science handicap)
Been there, done that.
Let's try to get science under a Fundy government without camels.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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I thought so too, though I was not around in the start of the game, i did go back and read a lot of the threads, and I thought that it just didn't make as much sense to switch to either of the representative government when we have so many units, and so many of them in the field (which would cause massive unhappiness). I specifically remember a debate (started by shade I beleive) where we had republic but had not yet discovered monarchy, and for a while, it was discussed whether to switch to republic or not. (the idea was discarded, as we couldn't support the units we already had under republic).
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We had a poll, that I did that the people decided to go for a Fundamentalist government.
Communism was an option, and rejected in favour of Fundamentalism.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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I've gone back and looked at past threads for an hour, and appears we did NOT forbid ourselves the use of representative governments. I really thought we had, but government was not included in the original "restrictions" poll. There was some early discussion about it, but it didn't become anything formal.
Unless we want to decide to make that restriction now, we can always consider Republic or Democracy in the future.
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Then can we use this turn (assuming it's the same turn we reached Fundy) to check what happens in Rep and Demo by switching Governments within the one turn? We will come back to Fundy, of course, but it could be instructive to have some info about how badly our civ needs happiness in these two Govts, and also how much more cash we might make if we were to reach them one day.
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I'd rather stick with all those people who voted Fundy. Give them a chance to see their government in action.
Surely we ought to honor the earlier poll.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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FUNDY
All the science we need, we can take by force."I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
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I agree we should stick with Fundy, but if the time should be right later on (like when we don't have any units in the field ) then I don't think we should rule out democracy (after a vote of course).
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I wouldn't recommend Demo without capturing happy wonders. Without trade routes, getting sustained celebrations to happen will be almost impossible. There's no ocean to speak of on the map, so arrows are hard to come by."I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)
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Communism, on the other hand, might be a compromise in the long run. Decent science, martial law to keep the peace, and celebrations a possibility (though hard to achieve without trade)"I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)
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I consider Fundie only a way to solve some long-developing problems while we have units in the field. Communism will be the best thing for us in the long-term, but Fundie sure beats Monarchy for the present time!Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
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