WELCOME to SETTLER II !

[BigFree]

Yes, there's a chat room, but with nowhere near the capabilities it had before. So to say it's "working" isn't fair if you were to compare it to what we had before.

Maybe it doesn't matter to you much, but to some it does. I'd like to see Apolyton's irc server back like it was.

[vondrack]

Originally posted by BigFree
Maybe it doesn't matter to you much, but to some it does. I'd like to see Apolyton's irc server back like it was.

I would humbly second this request.

I have never been a big chatroom regular, but ever since I got heavily involved in Civ3 PtWDG and ISDG games, I have been using the Apolyton IRC server almost 24/7. It would be so nice to have it back... DALnet or UnderNet are hardly a substitute for me, due to various reasons.

[Rasbelin]

You can always ask Markos to add rooms to the current system, which supports multiple chatrooms and such, so your DGs can have their chatrooms already. Installing an IRCD for having a halfblood IRC server is waste of time. The current system ok, as long as Markos adds rooms for the DGs.

[BigFree]

You are completely missing the point Rabelin. The current system lacks nearly all the "bells and whistles" that we had previously. We could create channels and put passwords on them as needed. This would allow us to hold chats with other teams in a controlled environment.

I've played around with the new chat system, and to say it is lacking is an understatement.

Please, MarkG, can we have the old system back?

[Rasbelin]

I oppose the suggestion as most likely plenty of other more urgent issues on Markos' tasklist. If he has time for it in the future, then that's a different issue, but IMO we shouldn't demand too much as then other things will suffer.

[BigFree]

I hardly think I "demanded" anything. This is a private site run by individuals not a corporation, they can do as they see fit. To accept reasonable requests or to ignore everyone; that's their choice. It's our choice to come here, leave, or stay.

How would you know what "tasks" MarkG has on his list and what kind of time he has to do them? Are you his new assistant? Maybe you are....

It is just my "request" that the irc system be restored.

[Ming]

Originally posted by BigFree
To accept reasonable requests or to ignore everyone; that's their choice.

And gee MarkG, have you stopped beating your wife...

Frist... how do you know it's a reasonable request? Maybe there are problems in doing what you ask.

Second... How do you know He's ignoring you... maybe he's trying to do what you ask or has added your request to his priority list.

Running a site the size of this one takes up a lot of his free time...

[vondrack]

The biggest problem I have with Java chatrooms is that I can't use mIRC with its great set of handy features. Logging, multiple chats/windows, cut&paste, triggers others can use to draw my attention to the chat, if I am just having it running in the background, doing something else... it is about the functionality (and in certain aspects, about one's comfort).

I agree with BigFree, it would be nice to have the old IRC back - I don't say how important it is compared to other things and how much of a priority it should be. I understand many people do not need the features I frequently use(d). I am just saying I would be happy to have it back.

EDIT: crossposted with Ming - we understand it takes a lot of effort to get Settler II up and running at full speed. But if there is a problem preventing the IRC from being reenabled in its former state or a plan to bring it back, could you tell us, please? Many of us hang out there in the cold, on IRC servers that are much less friendly than the old Poly IRC was, hoping to be able to come back home to here soon... if we knew it's not going to happen, we'd probably spend some time finding ourselves a more permanent IRC residence somewhere... thanks.

[Ming]

Well... there are also other people who would be very happy if their own personal favorite things they would like to see done to this site were added as well

So you are indeed correct... It really comes down to priorities for MarkG and DanQ. This is only a hobby for them, and not their full time job. And I'm sure they have real lives to attend to as well

Edit also for crosspost

I wish I could answer the question, but only Mark or Dan can. They have been very busy working on other things with the site... But that's all I know.

[BigFree]

I'm still giving it time Ming; if a week or so goes by and there's not an answer to my request, then I'll consider myself "ignored." It wouldn't be the first time nor the last in my life.

As far as the request being reasonable or not, that is left for MarkG to answer. I only know that the system existed before and now it does not. If MarkG says that it's not "reasonable" to get it back, I'll believe him.

My post wasn't to sound that I feel I'm already being ignored or that I felt that my particular request was reasonable, they were very general statements about how this site could be run; it's just to say that it is up to the owner's to do as they wish.

I'm positive that running this site takes up quite a bit of time, something that all memeber's here must appreciate to some degree.

[Ming]

Originally posted by BigFree
I'm positive that running this site takes up quite a bit of time, something that all memeber's here must appreciate to some degree.

Yes... it's amazing how much of their time they give just to provide us with a site that many call home. However, lately, it seems like not all members of this private site appreciate that fact. Mark and Dan deserve a lot of credit and respect for all they've done for the civ and gaming community... yet it seems many people want to dump on them for simply running their private site as they wish. It's a shame...

[Rasbelin]

Many of us hang out there in the cold, on IRC servers that are much less friendly than the old Poly IRC was, hoping to be able to come back home to here soon...

That applies to all ACS DG activities which have been concentrated to large IRC networks for now. As for friendliness, the level on ACS' halfblooded IRC server was as good as on any major network like DALnet, EFnet, etc.

[Chemical Ollie]

Will the Y1.97K bug be fixed? Or will all us old farts be 33 forever?

[Rasbelin]

Don't you enjoy your eternal youth?

[Ben Kenobi]

yet it seems many people want to dump on them for simply running their private site as they wish. It's a shame...

On that note,

THANK YOU MARKOS!