Ad-Free Apolyton: THE POLL

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Locutus
This is not about democracy.

I agree, but I don't think this is a reason to dismiss any one's opinion or to say "who cares about what you think"... if yes I don't see why someone is asking my opinion about the subject.

[Bloody Monk]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


I agree, but I don't think this is a reason to dismiss any one's opinion or to say "who cares about what you think"... if yes I don't see why someone is asking my opinion about the subject.

You have to be very prickly to think that is what was meant. In point of fact, a no opinion doesn't matter as long as a sufficient number say yes. This is because the proposal is voluntary.

It should not be too hard to "see why someone is asking" if you want to be a volunteer. Relax, all will be well and good soon.

Monk

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
You have to be very prickly to think that is what was meant.

I suppose I am and I have certainly over reacted but posters should sometimes think twice about what they have written before hitting the submit button (including me from times to times).

In point of fact, a no opinion doesn't matter as long as a sufficient number say yes. This is because the proposal is voluntary.

It should not be too hard to "see why someone is asking" if you want to be a volunteer. Relax, all will be well and good soon.

OK, I know that but I am still worried and mainly because of the "small bonuses" offered to paying members. Who can be sure that the said bonuses will stay "small" over the years? New features will certainly be implemented in the future of the ACS, will these new features be reserved to paying members or will they be designed for everyone?

In my first post here I said that I was fearing that this could be the beginning of a new process, this is my main concern. If some members want to pay to get rid-off the adds it is their right and we should thank the administrators of the ACS to think about giving them this option. But I am indeed worried about the advantages paying members would have or rather about the advantages the non-paying members would be denied.

In every stratum of our occidental societies I can see everyday the disastrous effect of money replacing moral values one by one at an increasing speed. You can call me an idealist, a romantic, an old fashioned s*d or whatever you want but free sites like Apolyton are a real puff of fresh air in this world. I perfectly know that the administrators of the ACS are not trying to enrich themselves in the process but I am still worried about the future of Apolyton.

[alva]

All my answer are as far as I know , ok.

New features will certainly be implemented in the future of the ACS, will these new features be reserved to paying members or will they be designed for everyone?

Paying members only, but the features are to my mind more symbolic then of any real value. (slightly bigger avatar,...)

In my first post here I said that I was fearing that this could be the beginning of a new process, this is my main concern.

Don't worry, won't happen
All members will be treated equally.

You can call me an idealist, a romantic, an old fashioned s*d or whatever you want but free sites like Apolyton are a real puff of fresh air in this world.

[Bloody Monk]

If you are really concerned about the long term future of this wonderful site, then that is the reason to say yes to this plan.

The long term future of the NET in general is under great stress due to new browsers coming out with auto popup blockers. Some means must be found by site owners to defray the costs of running a site. What to do??

This is a plan fostered by concerned users of this site, hoping to find a solution that makes sense for all. The Owners have been "dragged" into this by a persistent clamor. In other words, this is not a money grab by Mark and Dan (or Dan and Mark ).

It has been stated that the site will remain "as is" for those who do not pay. It MAY even happen that enough comes in by way of subscriptions to make the "goodies" available to those who don't pay. What are you worried about?? Perhaps it is just change that upsets you??

Monk

[PLATO]

Bloody Monk

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
What are you worried about?? Perhaps it is just change that upsets you??

Your post was very sensible until this sentence...

[Bloody Monk]

Like I said before, too prickly, by half.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
Like I said before, too prickly, by half.

PRICKLY... ME!?!

[MarkG]

New features will certainly be implemented in the future of the ACS, will these new features be reserved to paying members or will they be designed for everyone?

just before implementing subscriptions we are announcing new services or upgrades to services to everyone(civgroups, search system). i believe this gives some answers...

[mrmitchell]

Can I get a free subscription if I allow Markos to sell out every single word in every one of my posts to an advertiser?

[MarkG]

we're already working on it

[Skanky Burns]

The scarey part is you probably are telling the truth.

[MarkG]

so far we've sold the words "free" and "forum". we're in discussions with firaxis on "civ*"(civ2, civ3, civ4, etc) but we're in disagreement cause they want royalty for the use of the word "settler" as our server's name

[Gilgamensch]

Mark,

just change it to Settler and now they can't complain anymore. Maybe Europe shall ask for royalty on the word as well, as we send the settlers over to America. So how can they argue it is their idea