Turns 2171- 2180

[Hercules]

I did some slight modifications such as move one of the crawlers near EM towards Snowflake so as to reach Fungal Heights next turn. I also switched a worker in HC to a librarian so as to push discovery to 4 turns rather than 5.
MW beaten by unity chopper 20ecs gained.

I relocated a KC crawler to Delirium Camp and back to the Monolith.

[Mart]

2173 is in.
Hercules, wait with moving plama defender 1-3-2. I see a way moving it to Delirium Camp. We can than make a worker there and have the police unit yet in 1 turn, and not 2.
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More analysis later, but that plasma defender can be moved
W W N, load to LIT. Move LIT 3 tiles north, then use plasma defender last move point to enter DC (Delirium Camp) along the road.
Crawler from monolith maybe put NE on forest and place worker on monolith. Police is next turn.

[ForesterSOF]

I would go for the 3 Network Nodes and the BioEnhancment in EM.

[Mart]

• I would do two technicians in Kodycryptor, which isbetter in economy than in science. and then 3 librarians and 1 technician in EM, where both effects are equal. This still gives us Cyberethics in 3 turns, 104 lab/turn, and 64 or 65 EC/turn
• GeoMatrix may replace worker from forest to the farm tile: 1-2-1 to 2-1-2. We get growth one turn earlier. Efficient nutrients
• Gemka's Loft, replace 1-2-2 to 2-1-0. We get growth one turn earlier. Efficient nutrients. Then hurry network node for 52 EC, since we go down with minerals from 13 to 12. (It is partial payment, Full cost minus difference between production and 10 times 2) (56-(2*(12-10)))
• SH hurry bioenhancement for 76 EC. Then we have 10 minerals for Beaver B6 next turn.
• Googlieplex, energy bank for 24 EC
• Heavens Gate, network node for 32 EC
• RPS, maybe hab complex for 12 EC, Total expenses 196 EC.
• If we replace two crawlers on forests near Heavens Gate, then we can move a worker from 1-2-1 to 1-2-2. More energy, 1 EC.
• Crawler near Delirium Camp, move NE to free the monolith for worker.
• That former with "L" twice NW from Hercules station maybe do a road SW then S S S. That region is close to EM, so good for new bases.
• See hive Manufacturing Warrens garrison. Guess who will get the hit???

Ok, these are mine proposals. I have not much time at the moment. I may see the turn later. We are kinda very fast this time.

[Hercules]

End turn 2173.

I have implemented all of Marts recommendations and moved a few formers.

Next turn should be exciting, getting Cyber and then switching.

[Hercules]

I hope to send this on soon. Yeah I had a look at Manufacturing Warrens,

I notice that Morgan has about 5 tacticals also in place.

[Hercules]

Turn 2173 posted.

[Mart]

How are we going to get Cyberethics?

I tried chat with Lal, and he could sell us Cyberethics for 100 EC. The techs we will be offered:

Doc: Init
Adv. Subathomic Theory
Bioengineering
Advanced Military Algorithms
Mind/Machine Interface

If we choose MMI we then can get it in 3 turns and attempt to build Cyborg Factory the same turn.

Spartans and PK have Cyberethics now, what is the chance a third faction gets it within the 3 turns so we can switch?

[Hercules]

Well we were going to steal it from Lal next turn.

Is it better to trade it from Lal and maintain good relations.?

[Mart]

I would say yes. This 100 EC we will get back from trade I guess, which will last longer then

[Mart]

I am actually worried about something else. If we are succesful with Cyborg Factory, then these two Bioenhancement centers in EM and SH would be build in vein. Anyway, before we make this special project let us not regret...

We have +17 energy/turn from Lal alone. Like 6 turns and we have those 100 back

[Hercules]

There is the possibility that we could steal Cyber from Lal without provoking Vendetta.

[Hercules]

Hey in any case here's a good chance for a poll. Though I doubt many would forsake MMI at this juncture.

[Mart]

I believe getting Cyborg Factory so that Spartans will not get it should be priority. Spartans making elite units in ALL their bases due to Command centers and bioenhancement is death for all others. At least we would have to suffer a lot.

I think that 100EC does not matter that much. As I say, we probably get it back or most of it from trade. Plus possible trades in the future.

I think the chance Lal will not notice is rather small. Any experiences of yours regarding this game feature?

[Hercules]

Oh I think he will notice alright but whether he will go to vendetta is another matter. He may just rebuke us.

However this moves beyond being just a Dip issue, that is testing response.

I am happy enough to trade with Lal for 100ecs