Production planning

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by t_ras
ok what about 4 needljets, 4 choppers, 3 drop. inf. , 2 drop rober, 2 drop probs?

it is maby not all but it is a lot for the bgginnig. i think choppers, infantery and probs can be finished in 2 turns, the other might depend on how many crawlers we can "eat" for this.

I'd like to see 8 missle choppers (6-1-10), 4 drop infantry (1-3-1), 2 drop rovers (1-1-2), 2 drop probs (0,0,1) and 2-4 missle noodles (6-1-12) if possible. As long as we can get most of them finished in 2158 (3 turns) we'd be in very good shape. We are not going to "eat" any crawlers if we don't have to, we'll use crawlers to crawler minerals. But we won't be doing any more prototypes so we can't really convert crawlers either.

[t_ras]

well...to tell for sure i'll be able only when i get to see the turn.
but i sopose if we could use some crowlers we could have it for sure. i just have to check how to make it as less expaneive as i can. also at least one of the citys will HAVE to build police force...

[Frankychan]

Originally posted by Jamski

sorry my bad

CPU = CyCon+PEACE+Uni?

I'll stick with CyUni, that seems to be the one in common use.

-Jam

all good

I'm just calling them CPU because that's what they're calling themselves, that, and it's only 3 letters.

[Snowflake]

Any suggestion to rename our choppers and noodles?

[Frankychan]

Chopper-Yozora (night sky), boukun (tyrant, despot), Overseer

"Noodle"-Kikka (orange blossom) , MIG, Soyuz, Zero


The planes are more traditional and based off of names from real planes, or space"ships" in the case of the Soyuz. The choppers I got from japanese language. I like to think of choppers as being "tyrants in the sky".....

[t_ras]

maybe MI-24 like the terorific russian chopper.

[Micha]

I like MiG for our needlejets
Since the last MiG (Mikojan-Gurjewitsh) plane was named "MiG-35" we should name them something like "MiG-50". With better weapons/abilities that type number might increase

About upgrading vs. rushing:
I have found these numbers when I test-played a HumanHive transcendent SP game in scenario mode (although it crashed after some turns):

Scout Patrol [1-1-1] --> Drop Plasma Garrison [1-3-1 drop] : 50 ECs
Scout Rover [1-1-2] --> Drop Plasma Skirmisher [1-3-2 drop] : 70 ECs
Scout Rover [1-1-2] --> Drop Missile Speeder [6-1-2 drop] : 130 ECs
Gun Chopper [1-1-?] --> Missile Chopper [6-1-?] : 90 ECs
Gun Penetrator [1-1-?] --> Missile Needlejet [6-1-?] : 90 ECs

hope it helps.

[Snowflake]

Thanks so much dear Micha. That's what I thought too. That means we don't have a lot of money to upgrade shell choppers. If we have say 300 ecs we would be only able to upgrade 3 choppers.

[Micha]

I think the "upgrade" feature was introduced to save obsolete units from being disbanded, not to create a cheaper way of building an army. That way it´s only logical that upgrades cost more than rushes...

However, these figures may change with technology. I think I remember Jamski saying something like that, though I´m not sure. Does anyone know about that?

[Frankychan]

Hmmm, I usually have to pay more for my upgrades. When i'm trying to upgrade, sometimes it won't let me upgrade my scout units at all despite the fact that I have the unit already prototyped and in production. WTH is that all about?

[t_ras]

that was what i thought too, that was the reason i wanted to spend ALL of our money in rushig prottotypes and not in upgrading!

i didnt insist in that cause i didnt realy chcked it, it was just an asumption i alwyas worked with.

[Snowflake]

In most cases I believe upgrading is more expansive, unless you are still in your first row of production. For example In Googliegrad I was producing a droped plasma garrison. It didn't have much carried over minerals so to rush it so that it can be finished the next turn is pretty expensive. I don't remember the number maybe something like 68 or more. But Googliegrad has a scout that I built last turn for Drone pacifying purpose. So I upgraded it for 50 ecs and Gooliegrad would be able to finish building another scout the next turn so you still have your scout and dropped plasma garrison, but you spend less money by upgrading than rushing.

[Snowflake]

Anybody is up to trying to find a good design for a 3x3 or 5x5 energy park? I know there are a lot good discussions on the help forum about energy parks. But I don't have time to look for them right now. I would greatly appreciate if somebody could do this for us.

[t_ras]

sorry, i dont usualy use them, so i wouldnt know how to build it.

[Snowflake]

Yea I have never used it either. But on Mount Doom we have a very nice mountain with 3500 attitude and I thought it might be an ideal site for it.

I still haven't got on stand for my hearing yet so I really can't do more at the moment. But I'll try to search for it in the help forum when I am done with the rate case.