Production planning

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by t_ras

of course it's better to publish here so you can fix whatever needed , i just thought youd rather not.

T_ras thank you for being considerate. I had feared that we would be leaking info if details are discussed here. However I have since consulted Googlie again and I'm now thinking that we could go ahead and do it here. GooglieGod and tass will be able to monitor the other forums and their game turns, so if it appears that somebody knows our plan ahead of time and had prepared counter steps then I'm sure GooglieGod and tass will be able to find that out. I'm now entrust my trust on our gods.

[Jamski]

Question. Needlejets. My understanding is that you normally use needlejets as interceptors against enemy's air force. However seeing that they don't have DAP yet do you still think we need needlejets?

Noodles are a cheap way of sinking any foils or cruisers that come near our shores. We can send them on patrols to search for incoming traffic.

-Jam

[Snowflake]

I agree. Also we may want to send a needlejet to escort PEACE's colony pods if they manage to escape?

[Frankychan]

Comrade Jamski is right. If we have needlejets, or "noodles" as Jamski puts it, we can take down any transports that the CPU is trying to sneak our way, they'll also be able to destroy any reinforcements that the CPU might try to send to their bases under siege.....just have them fly behind the base into enemy territory and destroy the unit.

Since we are providing half of the invasion force, are we going to get a fair share of the spoils or just take a back seat?

Two more questions.....

1) While both of us are going to be concentrating on Uni bases, will anyone be watching out for the CyCon units and bases?

2) I don't think I can stress this enough, but I feel like we are helping out PEACE and I would like them to contribute to this invasion in some way. So far it seems like only the Drones and ourselves are doing this.

I understand that PEACE has become a "bitplayer", I want to see them contribute some units or at least give us creds/minerals so we can build our own units.

[Frankychan]

Sounds good Comrade HongHu.

If we send one though, there's going to be a window where our craft will have to refuel and the colony pod will be all alone out there. That window is probably going to be the most dangerous time for PEACE's pod.

[Snowflake]

I have built a cruiser for the same purpose too. It is a (1,3,6) unit. Not much attack ability but should provide decent defense you think?

PEACE would not be able to contribute any minerals since they may not have any bases left.

They will be able to contribute more later when we help them reestablish their home. They may be able to contribute some navy forces for our east coast I'm not sure, for I think their military was in a pretty bad shape. There's no way they can contribute to the univ war other than voting in the planned planetary council.

As for spills of war I would like to hear some suggestions. My thought is if we provide half of the force, we should get half of the spills. But somebody needs to look at it at a closer level. Buster mentioned that we should talk about it. But there is no talk about it yet.

[Frankychan]

For spoils of war, I would basically just have a general outline of what each faction gets, that way there isn't a rush to conquer bases and spread our forces too thin. The cruiser sounds like a good escort, all it needs is good armor and morale. Seeing as how the CPU doesn't have air support yet, we can have our cruiser run next to their pod without worry.

I definitely agree that 1/2 of military = 1/2 of spoils. We can't have the Drones getting ALL the bases now.


....Jeez, what were PEACE doing? They should have made more military units.....were they only making stuff for their bases, or were they under constant mindworm attack?

[Mead]

Originally posted by HongHu
Question. Needlejets. My understanding is that you normally use needlejets as interceptors against enemy's air force. However seeing that they don't have DAP yet do you still think we need needlejets?

I usually use them as as recon, long range strike against hard targets, and aerial blockade.

Note that because we have CB we get a +2 movement bonus.

RECON
Recon because they can move 12 spaces per turn and then 12 turns back to base. Choppers must land after 12 spaces or crash land. Right now and for the next few turns AOE does not had DAP so our needlejets are immune in the air. Our choppers will only be able to recon out 6 spaces before they must turn back for base.

I am not so worried about the 30% damage that the crash landing would casuse as the fear that an AOE probe would capture the chopper, or another AOE unit destroy it on the ground.

LONG RANGE STRIKE
They can hit a lot further out than the choppers. The choppers can far out, but must either land in the newly occupied base, or crash land.

AERIAL BLOCKADE
This is the main reason I am wanting to build some needlejets now. My plan is to place the needlejet on the far side of a target base on top of any roads leading from the target base to other AOE bases. The needlejet may, if I want, attack the target base (I might instead empty the base with choppers) and occupy it with drop units. Any reattacks, I am most worried about probes, the following turn will have to go around the eedlejet. My needlejets effectively cut of my new bases from AOE reattack.



After we get a few needlejets I would like to concentrate on choppers, but I would like 4-6 needlejets.


Mead

[Jamski]

The nice thing about air-units at this stage of the game is that noone has SAM, so we can use them to block.

-Jam

[Mead]

Originally posted by Jamski
The nice thing about air-units at this stage of the game is that noone has SAM, so we can use them to block.

-Jam

Exactly.

That will change with time, but hopefully by then it will be too late for the AOE.


Mead

[Jamski]

What the fuck is the AOE?

-Jam

[Frankychan]

easy with the swear words, comrade Jamski.

Axis Of Evil........or the CPU.

[Snowflake]

Ok. I'll try to make sure I understand and remember all the things you guys are saying. But I really hope that when we are at that point somebody would be able to play along side with me.

[t_ras]

ok what about 4 needljets, 4 choppers, 3 drop. inf. , 2 drop rober, 2 drop probs?

it is maby not all but it is a lot for the bgginnig. i think choppers, infantery and probs can be finished in 2 turns, the other might depend on how many crawlers we can "eat" for this.

[Jamski]

easy with the swear words, comrade Jamski.

sorry my bad

CPU = CyCon+PEACE+Uni?

I'll stick with CyUni, that seems to be the one in common use.

-Jam