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  • Unsent Post to Embassy - Opinions wanted.

    As the trading between the Hive and Drones appears to be proceeding fruitfully, searching for other allies is not an urgent consideration for the Hive. Consequently, flexibility while still important is no longer our top priority after Industrial Automation. Recent talks in the hive support biogenetics as the next tech to aim for, with the longer term goal of lifting restrictions.

    It appears that the Hive will be interested in pursuing separate beelines, with the drones. However, it would be useful to further discuss longer term goals than lifting restrictions. Perhaps the hive will do flexibility after biogenetics to go for MMI.

    There is also the issue of tech sharing. We would like to open up full tech sharing between our factions as originally described in the permi-pact document sent to the drones. This is so we can exploit joint research fully.

    The restriction lifting techs and the techs required to research them will probably be needed by the hive. Whereas it is possible some of the techs that the hive researches will be skipped by the drones. This may mean the hive will want more of the techs the drones have than the drones want of the hive, in the case of split tech path researching.

    Conversely, the hive wishes to hold off getting industrial base as long as possible even though it is part of the current tech deal we are currently executing. Also social psych and ethical calculus may not be immediately required in the short run.

    To summarise, at this time the hive wishes to pursue biogenetics, open full tech trading, and do separate tech path joint research.

    Kody

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    • Sounds good to me. Only one minor question. Should we try to convince them that what we are doing is also quite beneficial to them?
      Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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      • HongHu, to make the joint tech research work we need to organise how we do the research. That means if they want to do it, then they will have to agree on something.

        I don't really need to build a strong argument as they should be able to see this already.

        Kody
        Last edited by Kody; August 1, 2003, 08:39.

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        • Ok. I was just a little hesitated that this sentence: "This may mean the hive will want more of the techs the drones have than the drones want of the hive, in the case of split tech path researching." could cause them misunderstood that it would be not fair to them or something. But you are right. If they'll do it, that means they've already understood it.
          Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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          • I guess I should have been more careful with my wording.

            Kody
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            Those pictures were from our turn update. The hive uses the labels so when we make the task lists of each unit everyone knows which units are tasked to do what.

            Hive members can also analyse and comment on the tasks of certain units by referring to specific units by their label. It helps alot as we know exactly what each unit will be doing sometimes several turns into the future.

            We have found this system extremely useful. When we started pre-planning our moves and getting several people checking the next turn moves. The minor mistakes that cropped up now and again stopped occuring.

            That whole talk in the public forum about moving some of our energies from spam into game discussion actually occured.

            Kody
            Trying to dispel the idea that the hive is badly organised. Also letting them know we probably won't be a push over if it came to war as we're obviously analysing the game in depth.

            Kody

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            • Naw, no worries. Looks like buster already thought about the number of techs shared issue. In response to you he talked about "extended credit lines" and such which makes sense.

              It's always good to build up our reputation.
              Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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              • So, are we going to declare Vendetta on the Drones next turn or what?

                -Jam
                1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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                • Jamski, Why do you always have to deliever surprises like that?
                  Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                  • Work in progress

                    We would have liked the WP, but to admit honestly I doubted you guys would have agreed to give it to us for anything. The land raising plan to create the inland sea will be delayed for several decades. Unless you intend to provide the formers.

                    University has gotten IA last turn. Pirates have gotten industrial base. We suspect that the pirate cycon faction are doing tech leapfrogging. Within the next few turn I believe that the other
                    factions will all have IA.

                    Any word on the tech planning, either which techs will be researched, or if we're going to advanced beyond individual tech deals.

                    I've also been prompted to nudge you again for that joint-victory pact.

                    This post may be carbon copied to mongoose if there is no reply after 24 hours, as I suspect that many drones are now avoiding this forum like a spam plague.

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                    • The message should begin with a bright positive note. Focus more on their success. Don't want to appear like sore losers.
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                      • Yeah I know it was pretty late when I wrote that. Fixed all the errors in the post I put in the drone forum.

                        Anyway the real reason why I decided to post here was to draw notice to new developments in the ambassador thread at the hive embassy.

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                        • Buster's message does sound very positive.
                          Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                          • My message at the Drones:

                            Since the Hive is currently still restructuring I don't know if and when we will have a new Ambassador to the Drones during the time when Kody is not in the Hive forum. Right now I'm trying to fill in each and every position where something needs to be done.

                            So anyway I would like to convey the Hive's request for help from the Drones.

                            During the last turn the Hive had met the Data Angels and Roze declared war on us. She already sent in an aggressive force toward us that consists merely one 2-2-1 unit. However people in the Hive feels that it is crucial the Hive's defensive force be mordenized in order to fense any future potential attacks from Roze as well as the university. We will not seek transfering of HEC from you in order to honor your agreement with the CyCon. However we would like to respectively request that our pact brother the Drone help us with a prototyped unit with 3 armor at your earliest convenience. We understand that the production and transit of a prototyped unit will take some time compare to the instaneousness of tech trading. Therefore we would appreciate if the Drones would give this request a relatively high priorty.

                            Comrade HongHu
                            Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                            • Kody's suggestion. Very good one.

                              Notice that one of the hive bases is within 3 squares of a drone base. This means the unit can be turned over to the hive and then turned back to the drones during the hive turn.

                              If that is done the pirates will be unable to see the exchange that has occured, and it will be more of a shock to see us building +3 armor infantry.
                              Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                              • Yeah, that´s really good! They´ll never know what struck them! *muahahahaha*
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