Turn Planning/Reports

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by Archaic


Tell them that we know they have the Cyborg commlink, and we request that they give it to us at once so that all three of our factions can co-ordinate an alliance against the Hive. The rapid speed they are getting these at suggests either intervention by the GG to give the rest of us a challenge (I already know for certain that the Cyborgs and Pirates already suspect the Hive of some form of cheating anyway, and have for a long time), or very poor diplo decisions on the part of whoever's been giving the Hive all their tech.

I'm on it, boss.

[GeneralTacticus]

*SIGH* This is what I get for eternally hoping Archaic will play the turn for a change. Turn played, report to follow shortly.

[GeneralTacticus]

2138 Report

MM's suggestions followed as usual, although an extra six credits were spent rushing the Zoloto-Gold Rec Commons, just to be sure (IIRC, buying at less than the full price doesn't prevent drone ritos from occurring next turn).

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
*SIGH* This is what I get for eternally hoping Archaic will play the turn for a change. Turn played, report to follow shortly.

Perhaps you should decide beforehand who's going to play which turn. We don't want to exceed the 48 hour limit constantly.

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
MM's suggestions followed as usual, although an extra six credits were spent rushing the Zoloto-Gold Rec Commons, just to be sure (IIRC, buying at less than the full price doesn't prevent drone ritos from occurring next turn).

If I'm not mistaken, the Recreation Commons would have completed before drone riots had a chance of occuring, since the base was not in a drone riot to begin with. There was certainly no harm in spending a few extra credits, though.

Btw, did you change the sliders from 50/0/50 to 40/0/60 or did you leave them as they were? In any case, we will be getting Gene Splicing soon and must decide on our next tech to be reserched.

[GeneralTacticus]

Originally posted by Minute Mirage


Perhaps you should decide beforehand who's going to play which turn. We don't want to exceed the 48 hour limit constantly.

Yes, we should - that, and/or or you could be our third turnplayer as I suggested before.

Btw, did you change the sliders from 50/0/50 to 40/0/60 or did you leave them as they were? In any case, we will be getting Gene Splicing soon and must decide on our next tech to be reserched.

I left them as they were. What techs would be available to research?

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus


Yes, we should - that, and/or or you could be our third turnplayer as I suggested before.

I can lend a hand if needed, but that means I can't load the save until I know who's playing the turn. Would it be possible for you and Archaic to post here and announce who's playing the turn as soon as you figure it out? We could also have an additional time limit like 36 hours, after which I would play the turn if I hadn't heard anything from you.

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
I left them as they were. What techs would be available to research?

Assuming we haven't gotten Doctrine:Flexibility by the time we pick the next tech, the techs we have the prerequisites for are the following:

Doctrine: Flexibility
Centauri Empathy
Ecological Engineering
Progenitor Psych
Polymorphic Software
Applied Physics
Doctrine: Loyalty
Neural Grafting

If my calculations, based on our last choices are correct, we should have all the techs as available choices.

If we receive Doctrine:Flexibility before our next choice, our tech choices should look like this:

Doctrine: Initiative
Ecological Engineering
Progenitor Psych
Applied Physics.

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Googlie
Comrade Kody is one heck of a micromanager. I've been in games with Vel and with big_canuck, and believe me, Kody leaves them in his wake.

Would you have any copies of saves from those games? The best I've been able to emulate has come from using Sikander style strategies, and obviously, they're quite lacking in comparison. I'd love to see what I'm up against, and maybe borrow a bit from his strategies. Up to this point, I thought I was quite good, but now I feel quite humbled.

Originally posted by Googlie
And running Planned, Wealth gives the Hive a +3 Industry. That means six unimproved crawlers plus 40* ec's can instabuild a 200 cost SP such as the HGP or the CN. Eight plus 60* ec's instabuilds a 300-cost SP such as the PTS or the VW (and a crawler normally costs 30 minerals, but with +3 Industry it's cost becomes only 21)

True. But when they're having to build that many crawlers.....it just boggles me. I simply can't match that.
Wait. They wouldn't be doing Industry Switches would they? Build the crawlers, change out of Planned & Wealth, slot them into the project, change back to Planned and Wealth next turn. That's about the only way I can manage to get that many projects done so quickly with the playtests I tried earlier.



Sorry for not playing the turn GT. I saw the notification for it on the weekend, while I was unfortunatly without my copy of AC, and after you didn't contact me, I assume you must've been playing the turn already. I'll take charge of the next one.

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Archaic


True. But when they're having to build that many crawlers.....it just boggles me. I simply can't match that.

Have you tried rush building crawlers or do you upgrade them? I've found that rushing the crawlers is very effective, more so than upgrading especially if you have a high industry rating, like the Hive do.

[Archaic]

In the playtest, I was only rushing. I don't tend to do upgrades until the mid to late game, when my commerce income starts coming in.

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Archaic
In the playtest, I was only rushing. I don't tend to do upgrades until the mid to late game, when my commerce income starts coming in.

I suppose you took into account the better-than-average starting conditions, i.e. everyone probably started with a rocky mineral bonus? Anyway, can we assume that the Hive have received tech trades from someone? If yes, the trader has probably been the Cyborgs. I doubt their intention was to lose all the SPs to the Hive though, especially considering that they started the VW, but the Hive snagged it.

[Archaic]

Yes, I took it into account. I had three Rocky/Minerals in the playtest, as well as Monoliths for each of the bases I planted.

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Archaic
Yes, I took it into account. I had three Rocky/Minerals in the playtest, as well as Monoliths for each of the bases I planted.

Do you actually still have a save of the scenario you tested? I'd like to try what's the best I can come up with.

[Archaic]

No, I don't sorry. I just cleaned out my HDD the other night, and I didn't figure I'd be needing it again.

[Minute Mirage]

Originally posted by Archaic
No, I don't sorry. I just cleaned out my HDD the other night, and I didn't figure I'd be needing it again.

That's OK, it's not a big loss.


Anyway, how are the diplomatic negotiations proceeding with the pirates? We have received an in-game offer from them where they offer a pact and Doctrine: Flexibility.

[Mr. President]

I sent them a message as Archaic specified a couple of posts above, but I didn't get a response.