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  • #31
    to GT's suggestion. If it were me, since we may need ECs for Secret Project and crawler construction, I'd offer the techs to begin with... however, from a stretegic point of view where we want to limit our rivals' power, GT likely is in the right. The ECs won't help the Pirates quite as much as an additional technology would.

    As for the Hive... If they're playing an initial builder phase, which is fairly likely, I think they likely have Automation by now. Even if they're playing a balanced Build/Conquer game, they very well may have it. So I'd assume that they have a fair chance at getting both those SPs.

    Of the two, the HGP seems to me to be one of our priorities... I'd rather have that than the Merchant Exchange, although it's admittedly debatable. But our immediate priority is admittedly the Virtual World.

    It's possible that the Hive hasn't stockpiled crawlers in preparation for these Secret Projects. If so, we still have a shot at the HGP. However, we'll know soon enough.
    Adam T. Gieseler

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    • #32
      2135 Report

      Again, not much to say here, except that we're continuing to follow MM's plan, and that our Unity foil opened a Unity pod and found 50 ECs inside.

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      • #33
        Re: 2135 Report

        Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
        Again, not much to say here, except that we're continuing to follow MM's plan, and that our Unity foil opened a Unity pod and found 50 ECs inside.
        That's good, now we actually have the cash to back up our negotiations with the pirates.

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        • #34
          Yes, to the tune of 122 ECs. Hopefully we won't have to rush any more Rec Commons for a while...

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          • #35
            Well, the Hive snatched both the HGP and the PTS which means that only the VW and the ME are unbuilt. The Believers, as we know, have been building the VW for some time now and the Angels are building the ME in three cities. In normal SP games the AI never changes SP production in mid-flight, but do you suppose Googlie could have changed this? I'd hate to lose the VW to an AI.

            As far as fellow humans go, I suppose the Borgs could really use the VW, since they are likely to build net nodes anyway. We just have to hope we can beat them to it.

            BTW, have we made an offer to the PEACE?

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            • #36
              Well, the Hive snatched both the HGP and the PTS which means that only the VW and the ME are unbuilt. The Believers, as we know, have been building the VW for some time now and the Angels are building the ME in three cities. In normal SP games the AI never changes SP production in mid-flight, but do you suppose Googlie could have changed this? I'd hate to lose the VW to an AI.
              If he did, I'd be very interested to know how he did it. AFAIK, the only way you can beef up the AI is to give it extra faction bonuses and more starting bases; you can't make it smarter, onyl tougher.

              As far as fellow humans go, I suppose the Borgs could really use the VW, since they are likely to build net nodes anyway. We just have to hope we can beat them to it.
              Yes, there's little else we can do, although we should have it sewn up in a few turns anyway.

              BTW, have we made an offer to the PEACE?
              Good question. CS?

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              • #37
                2136 Report

                Nothing new to report.

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                • #38
                  I submitted the offer to PEACE last Friday. Today I got a reply:

                  Honored Crimson Sunrise

                  Your offer has been submitted to the council o' captains. We be most interested in energy credits but we commlinks as most valuable. WE are reticent to sell them and would seek a considerable sum.

                  AS for doc flex-- it is a possible trade item . . . However ethical calc is not desired as we have other means of acquiring it . . . WE would be most interested in gene splicing however . . .. or any other non level 1 tech -- (Its not that we value these less, its just that we have the ones we want) .

                  Ambassador Flubber
                  Chief Sweet-talker o' Peace
                  What do we think?
                  Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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                  • #39
                    We have/are researching Gene Splicing, aren't we?

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                    • #40
                      Yes, we're researching Gene Splicing and it would be very useful for the pirates indeed. With GS, they would get their nutrient restrictions lifted and finally get those 3 nutrients from the kelp farms. I would think hard before trading this though, because it is our state-of-the-art technology and it leads to many useful techs (Synthetic Fossile Fuels, Bio-Engineering, Ecological Engineering).

                      They did say that they are interested in any non level 1 tech though, which means we should try to sell them Secrets of the Human Brain. Perhaps a simple 1 to 1 trade -- SotHB for D:F? I still think we should trade for Applied Physics at some point, but perhaps not right now, if we are heading for restriction lifting. We don't need lasers at the moment and we don't want to slow down our research.

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                      • #41
                        I'd love to know how the Hive snatched both the HGP and the PTS. =/ Either we're doing a lot of things wrong, or they're doing things very right (Or just got lucky), and I'm afraid it's the former rather than the latter.
                        Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                        • #42
                          Good question, especially when they apparently lost a CP to worms quite early on...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Archaic
                            I'd love to know how the Hive snatched both the HGP and the PTS. =/ Either we're doing a lot of things wrong, or they're doing things very right (Or just got lucky), and I'm afraid it's the former rather than the latter.
                            I believe it's a combination of the two. I have reason to believe that the Hive have planned their turns very carefully and I don't think they just got lucky when they built the SPs, especially knowing that the pods don't produce any artifacts. As for the latter point, I believe we could have built the VW earlier by priorizing our production differently. That's in the past however, and as far as I can see there's nothing we can do to get the VW any earlier.

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                            • #44
                              By the way, has the turn been played already? I thought General Tacticus mentioned that it had, but nobody's posted it in the turn tracking thread.

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                              • #45
                                Even if the Hive planned their turns very carefully, I fail to see how they could have got to Ind. Auto so quickly without help. Mark my words, the other factions exchanged comms early, and we're being intentionally left out of the trading because they fear us. There is no way the Hive alone could have built both those projects in this short amount of time without some form of help.
                                Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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