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  • and I'm thinking of inserting an energy satt after the current item (ie switching the current thing after we get adv. spaceflight and rushing) in all JV bases except Concordia
    As previous governor for JV I can't resist to make a suggestion. Valhalla is currently at size 11. Perhaps it would be better to construct a hab cmoplex first before anything else.

    1) I'll leave the honour to someone else.
    2) The sooner you poll it, the better.
    3) Let's poll that too.
    Last edited by Maniac; March 16, 2003, 16:19.
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    • 2) We can now build the Theory of Everything (ToE). I would very much like to build it in Concordia, so we'll have it in the same base as the Supercollider. Any objections or other suggestions? Or shall I just get down to polling it?
      What's the problem with building it in the same base? The more centralization, the better, because we'll get more out of each unit of energy.

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      • Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
        What's the problem with building it in the same base? The more centralization, the better, because we'll get more out of each unit of energy.
        My thoughts exactly. I just wanted to give people a chance to object in case I missed some reason we shouldn't build it there.

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        • Btw, what do all of you think of declaring a semi-moratorium on land former construction? We have a total (land and sea) of 103 formers right now, and it's getting to the point where it's trying our excellent commisioner's sanity. If new bases need to build formers, so be it (although I'd say formers can just be reassigned from established regions), but otherwise I think we have enough.

          I'd suggest putting the production into infrastructure, crawlers and satts, and maybe military units if they're needed (although, looking at the save, I'd say we're doing quite well, particularly on defense).

          I'm just petitoning for GT's sanity here

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          • Yes, please, stop with the formers!!! As our construction of the magtube network showed, we have more than enough to do as we like, and building more is just a waste.

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            • Ship all the formers to the north and let them develop the northern part of the continent.
              You can only curse me to eternal damnation for so long!

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              • K, here's the list of first turn rushes I had in mind, this time sorted by region. Please, governors, let me know if any of these is not what you want, because if I'm not told otherwise I'm probably going to order these rushes.

                Centralis
                New Apolyton: will complete current thing in 1 turn.
                Tacticus Academy: currently on stockpile energy
                TBIBTU: rush Aerospace complex (saving 1 turn) for 70ecs
                Antioch: currently on stockpile energy
                Circular Quay: currently on stockpile energy
                Egregion: current thing below 10 mins, not planning on building anything here anyway

                Twin Sea
                New Suez: rush hybrid forest (saving 2 turns) for 172-192ecs
                Mysidia: rush hybrid forest (saving 2 turns) for 112-132ecs
                Crystalis: rush tree farm (saving 6ish turns) for 158-178ecs
                Transcendance Academy: current thing under 10 mins
                UN Research Complex: rush energy bank (saving 4ish turns) for 110-130ecs
                Heaven's gate: will finish current thing in 1 turn

                Akiria
                Aurora: current thing under 10 mins
                New Tassagrad: rush empath fusion speeder (saving 1 turn) for 44ish ecs (dunno exact)
                Twin Peaks: rush Centauri Preserve (saving 1 turn) for 18-38ecs
                Cyclops: rush empath chaos rotor (saving 1 turn) for 16ish ecs
                Espirito del Aqua: rush research hospital (saving 10ish turns) for 180-200ecs

                Jedinica Vrijstaat
                Concordia: rush Secret Crawler up to 10 mins over
                Pandemonium: rush chopper (saving 1 turn) for 70ish ecs
                Sheathed Sword: rush empath chaos rover (saving 2 turns) for 200ish ecs
                Terminal Dogma: rush chopper (saving 1 turn) for 70ish ecs
                Valhalla: will finish current thing in 1 turn

                Solaris
                Ankh-Morpork: rush Tree Farm (saving 4 turns) for 112-132ecs
                Shangri-La: current thing under 10 mins
                Metropolis: rush tree farm (saving 6 turns) for 184-204ecs
                UN Aquaxenobanana: rush aquaformers (saving 20 turns) for 172ish ecs
                UN Slippery ground: thing already rushed
                Capricorn: rush network node (saving 7 turns) for 104-124 ecs

                Aurillion
                UN Pizza Delivery: rush empath chaos rotor (saving 1 turn) for 25+ecs
                Deus Ex Machina: rush sky hydroponics lab (saving 1 turn) for 108-128ecs
                Zanarkand Gate: rush Centauri Preserve (saving 1 turn) for 36-56ecs
                Xanadu: will finish current thing in 1 turn
                UNMI: current thing under 10 turns

                No Region Yet
                UN Peace Anchorage: rush aquaformers (saving 11 turns) for 136ish ecs

                On another note, it seems time for a new region consisting of all our sea bases, is this agreed? If so I'll start a poll on what it should be named, and if necessary a poll on exactly which bases should be included.

                Noises have been made about making a new region out of captured Hive bases... this is a good idea, imho, but I don't think now (when we only have 1 such base) is the time to form such a region.

                Thoughts? Anyone?

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                • Well, since I would like to be a Governor, but am a little worried at all the former orders I might need to give, you could create a loosely linked "region" of bases that don't fit in anywhere else, and all of these could be my responsibility. We could say that these bases are effectively under the control of the former (as I will be by then) DPO because of the need to have someone there who can control the population if they riot.
                  Consul.

                  Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                  • Btw, I've got an idea for a start on our energy park (the image should be attached at the bottom).

                    Legend:
                    White outline: the space between the borders of the Solaris bases and our territory line.
                    Blue lines: proposed mag tubes
                    Green lines: proposed normal roads
                    Yellow outline: Solar collectors
                    Magenta-pinkish outline: Echelon Mirrors

                    Note that the outermost "lines" of solar arrays are just sorta there to exploit otherwise unused echelon bonuses. Note also that the squares at "ends" of the two mag tube" prongs can be normal roads without problem. (edit: I didn't mean to have that southernmost square in the easternmost echelon line be part of the echelon line, since it wouldn't be near any of the collectors, and I'm leaving the nearby rocky square for the current mining operation underway)



                    This can be extended when our territory is extended by new bases (for those of you that don't know, echelon mirrors only help when inside your territory).
                    Attached Files

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                    • Originally posted by Cedayon
                      Btw, I've got an idea for a start on our energy park
                      I like this layout, but are these really the optimum elevations for such an extensive commitment of time and space?

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                      • The elevations can be... modified ... but I was planning on waiting until the park was underway before getting to land raising... it is an important improvement to be made later, though, possibly along with some aquifer drilling (for river energy bonuses).

                        Besides, TKG will be DIA next term, and he knows all about terrain raising/lowering

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                        • Hmm, I've been thinking... the "one must poll SPs" thing is somewhat inconvienient, as it delays the construction of an SP that we get the ability to build in the middle of a turnchat... so perhaps we should start making those SP polls in anticipation of getting the proper tech?

                          The Cloning Vats and The Nano Factory are just around the corner...

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                          • Yes, I agree with that. I don't see any reason why we shouldn't be allowed to poll things in advance.

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                            • I think polls in advance are a great idea. However let us not use mid-turnchat availability as an excuse to build before polling. The poll must come first, although I see no objection to it being in advance.
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                              But he would think of something

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                              • I'm glad you all agree on pre-polling SPs to save time... so, anyone got their eyes on the Vats or the NF (or another one)? I'm pretty sure the Pholus Mutagen is earmarked for Akiria (specifically Aurora), though it needs to be officially polled.

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