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I have 15 civs for the Civ3 and PTW 100x100 versions, 16 for the Civ3 256x204 version, and the PTW 256x204 civs are still debatable.
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i won't be playing 256x204 (out of time and computer power reasons), but you could use all civ-slots in PTW and make 31 (!!!) civs...- Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
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My mod for PTW has 28 right now.
Fun to play a tiny map. 
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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28... perfect
... i think i should hurry up to buy a new computer
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Civ Possibilities
Here are the sugestions for inclusions that some of us came up with a while back.
1. US(+ Canada, Israel)
2. EU (+Turkey, Baltics, Switzerland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia etc.)
3. China (+Vietnam, Laos, North Korea)
4. CIS (+Mongolia)
5. India (+Nepal, Sri Lanka)
6. Arab League (Morroco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, and the Gulf States)
7. APEC (from Indonesia to S. Korea, including Singapore and ?Japan?)
8. MercoSur (Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile)
9. Central America and Carribean Basin (inc. Mexico and Cuba)
10. Andean Pact (Peru, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Bolivia and the Guayanas)
11. African Union (Sub-sahara Africa)
12. Australia (+ NZ, Papua New Guinea)
13. Independent Islamic States (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Bangladesh)
Does anyone have any opinions on this list? Here's a link to that previous thread.
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I think your decisions for world blocs are, for the most part, right-on. However, just a few changes: Iran and Pakistan should not belong to the same bloc; they are opposing powers in Afghanistan. Additionally, Iraq should probably not be thrown in a bloc with other Arab states that have been its traditional enemies. Venezuela's independence should be reflected as well.
Maybe Venezuela and Iraq could be linked? They are not linked in real life, but they are similar in that they are both so isolated.
Finally, it would be great to study the various rebel movements in sub-saharan africa, where rebel armed forces are often as powerful as states themselves, find out whom they are allied with/armed by, and join them to these blocs. Especially instructive would be the two major blocs in the Congo war, one behind Kabila and the other behind the eastern rebels.
This would also provide a great "fuse" to start a world war in this game...
Overall, though, your suggestions are excellent. In my opinion...
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This is a random suggestion and very off topic but perhaps you should put the American Forbidden Palace on the west coast in San Fransisco or something so that the west coast doesn't become the corruption capital of the world (we do have a rather large economy over here).The early bird gets the worm, but the early worm gets eaten.Comment
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Yeah, that's a good idea, but maybe it should be in LA. I hate to say, as I'm from San Francisco, but, you know, Hollywood... or someplace inbetween (Silicon Valley).Originally posted by Zwang
This is a random suggestion and very off topic but perhaps you should put the American Forbidden Palace on the west coast in San Fransisco or something so that the west coast doesn't become the corruption capital of the world (we do have a rather large economy over here).
Definitely put as many pollution-generating improvements as possible in LA. And is there a "soul-crushing misery" improvement you could put there as well?
(just kidding, la-la-landers).
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It's very difficult to deal with the Arab countries. Iran is Pakistan's enemy, but an even worse enemy of Iraq. Meanwhile Iraq is an enemy of the rest of its neighbors. So they're both kind of antisocial countries that can't really be put in any group. However I'm going to have to put Pakistan and Iran together, and make Iraq Arab. There's no other way. In 204x256 PTW Iraq and Iran will be their own countries.Originally posted by Yahweh Sabaoth
I think your decisions for world blocs are, for the most part, right-on. However, just a few changes: Iran and Pakistan should not belong to the same bloc; they are opposing powers in Afghanistan. Additionally, Iraq should probably not be thrown in a bloc with other Arab states that have been its traditional enemies. Venezuela's independence should be reflected as well.
Maybe Venezuela and Iraq could be linked? They are not linked in real life, but they are similar in that they are both so isolated.
Finally, it would be great to study the various rebel movements in sub-saharan africa, where rebel armed forces are often as powerful as states themselves, find out whom they are allied with/armed by, and join them to these blocs. Especially instructive would be the two major blocs in the Congo war, one behind Kabila and the other behind the eastern rebels.
This would also provide a great "fuse" to start a world war in this game...
Overall, though, your suggestions are excellent. In my opinion...
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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Dont frogot to take acount for the nuclear issue...
NUCLEAR POWERS
1. United States
2. Russia
3. China
4. United Kingdom
5. France
6. Pakistan
7. India
8. Israel
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Maybe you could put in the "user made" leaderheads?
Theres no need to cut on the number os civ's you can have upto 31. the only thing is it takes little extra loading time...Comment
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well North Korea soon anyway by the way it looks...Comment
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Iran and Pakistan are no longer enemys.
There little conflict with Pakistan arming the Talaban and Iran arming the Northen Allince is over.
as you see here the heads od states are meeting to increase trade, and boast ties...
Iraq and Iran are NOT enemys of each other, it just a certin ruler of Iraq who is casuing problems...
The people of these countires feel a bond.Comment
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You could also throw in a few countries that are speculated to have nuclear weapons, to add the rogue element to the game... South Africa, most of central Asia...Originally posted by mazzz
Dont frogot to take acount for the nuclear issue...
NUCLEAR POWERS
1. United States
2. Russia
3. China
4. United Kingdom
5. France
6. Pakistan
7. India
8. Israel
9.North KoeriaYou can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!Comment
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Oh, I don't know... the people of the countries do feel a bond, but 8 years of war followed by continuing tensions can create some emnity, especially since Iran still operates small armed forces inside northern Iraq...Originally posted by mazzz
Iran and Pakistan are no longer enemys.
There little conflict with Pakistan arming the Talaban and Iran arming the Northen Allince is over.
as you see here the heads od states are meeting to increase trade, and boast ties...
Iraq and Iran are NOT enemys of each other, it just a certin ruler of Iraq who is casuing problems...
The people of these countires feel a bond.
As for Khatami's peacemaking role, he's quite exceptional as a reformer and peacemaker, a Gorbachev-like figure who doesn't necessarily represent Iran's "state interests". I'm a big Khatami fan personally, but I would still not put Iran and Pakistan in a bloc... but, I guess that depends how much space you have for seperate Civs!You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!Comment
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