The Distant Rumblings of War!

[curtsibling]

What is that wheezing noise on the Soviet border, you might ask?
A malfunctioning Panzer gearbox, or a wounded artillery horse?

Actually, it is Curt Sibling struggling with a chesty cough and flu....!
As he puts more and more work onto his latest incarnation of Dictator!

This time, I am looking to recreate WW2 conflicts from June 1941, till Dec 1946 on a massive
European map - Allowing players to battle as varied CIVs, and with new multi-file mayhem...

With multi-file systems it is easy to recreate things like bad weather or a unit list that will
evolve with time. The possibilities to change history will depend on chances being taken
and choices being made! There will still be invasions and events to keep players alert!

Play for mastery as the military super powers of the Allies, Axis or Soviets.
Only one empire can win through and truly be called ruler of Europe!

Or go for a different challenge as you try to survive as Italy, Finland, Romania, and Vichy France.
As a mini-nation, you will be free to choose sides or make new alliances...

But beware the wrath of the dictators!

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Below is the map of the action, grand in scale, but hopefully good for conquest and great battles!


Orange = Allied
Cyan = Axis
Red = Soviets
White = Italy
Magenta = Finland
Yellow = Romania
Green = Vichy France
Blue = Neutral

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With the help of CIV masters like Tech and fairline, I have already laid the ground work
for what might be my most ambitious project with WW2 scens...I might ask for assistance
when it comes to creating batch files, or using Merc's utilities to allow multi-files to work...
In order to enable the unit/weather changes, which are so vital to WW2 history.

Any questions, please fire away - I will be updating this thread with info regularly!

30/1/08 = Map Image updated!

[Blue Lion]

I wish you good luck for your very ambitious project. This is a gigantic task!


But why are Romania and Finland seperate civs and not Axis when your scenario starts in June 1941? And it seems, Italy has its own civ-colour too.

[curtsibling]

Hi there, BL!
(nice animations, by the way!)

Italy, Romania and Finland all have their own agendas...
The civs are this way because I wanted to give the player a chance to play as a small and challenging nation.
Naturally, these micro-empires will have the chance to expand if they grab some weaker Soviet or Allied cities.

To avoid confusion, I think I will make the Axis (cyan) into the 'Greater Germany' faction.

[Jerec]

I'm assuming Dalek Tyranny is completed...where is the finished version?

using Merc's utilities to allow multi-files to work...

That means CivSwap?

[Arthedain]

Wow! Finally a Dictator europe!

Btw, I noticed some errors in the map. Italy occupied Albania and most of greece during dec 1941. Crete was in German hands though). You might also want to recheck the cities of Romania (I'e the Hungarian part of Romania they got when joining the Axis and the Romanian occupation of Ukraine, Odessa. See maps in the links below to see what I'm talking about:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Second_world_war_europe_1941-1942_map_en.png

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/5f/400px-Rom1942.png

Edit: Don't forget to edit your first post to include Italy in the list of civs.

[Mercator]

Originally posted by curtsibling
using Merc's utilities to allow multi-files to work...

Assuming you do mean CivSwap... I am/was working on an update for CivSwap (thanks to techumseh). If I can get off my lazy ass again and finish that off, you probably won't need batch files anymore...

[Jerec]

Originally posted by Mercator


Assuming you do mean CivSwap... I am/was working on an update for CivSwap (thanks to techumseh). If I can get off my lazy ass again and finish that off, you probably won't need batch files anymore...

WHAT!!?! You mean there's a program that can top CivSwap and actually put batch files in the trash bin? Now that you've let the cat out of the bag, you had better finish it, or some people might be awfully put out...

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Mercator


Assuming you do mean CivSwap... I am/was working on an update for CivSwap (thanks to techumseh). If I can get off my lazy ass again and finish that off, you probably won't need batch files anymore...

Looking forward to that - I will be working on various parts
of the scenario for a while, so there is no mega rush for the
utility, but is sounds excellent all the same!

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Jerec
I'm assuming Dalek Tyranny is completed...where is the finished version?

That was done a while ago!

I'll see about getting it onto SL wiki!

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Arthedain
Wow! Finally a Dictator europe!

About time, eh?

Originally posted by Arthedain Btw, I noticed some errors in the map. Italy occupied Albania and most of greece during dec 1941. Crete was in German hands though). You might also want to recheck the cities of Romania (I'e the Hungarian part of Romania they got when joining the Axis and the Romanian occupation of Ukraine, Odessa. See maps in the links below to see what I'm talking about:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Second_world_war_europe_1941-1942_map_en.png

http://content.answers.com/main/cont...px-Rom1942.png

Cheers for the pointers and links!
This map represents the situation in June 1941,
so Romania would not own Odessa just yet.

I was going to post my current map, and then take advice
from people about what Balkan cities belong to who...I can
use CivCity to make the necessary changes...

Would you be up for helping me on the Balkan front?

Originally posted by Arthedain Edit: Don't forget to edit your first post to include Italy in the list of civs.

Done - That was delirium of flu making me forget Italy!

[curtsibling]

Here is the map file, with cities and rules, so the thing loads OK! (excuse the CIV2 vanilla units!)

If anyone can help me out with proper ownership of the Balkan cities or any mistakes, let me know!

[Eivind IV]

Exiting!

Just for my curiosity, will the Germans in Romania fight under the German or the Romanian civ? And will the Afrika Korps fight under Italian or German command?

And regarding the Italian Adriatic, here's a nice wiki map indicating Italy (at it's peak) during ww2, indicating that Germany administered Athens and Crete only: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...areNostrum.jpg

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Eivind IV
Exiting!

Will the Germans in Romania fight under the German or the Romanian civ? And will the Afrika Korps fight under Italian or German command?

Cheers!

Romania will have it's own civ, and fight for the Germans, but the player can choose to break away...!

Also the DAK will be German-controlled, and based in Tripoli, which is German-owner for scen purposes...

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Eivind IV
And regarding the Italian Adriatic, here's a nice wiki map indicating Italy (at it's peak) during ww2, indicating that Germany administered Athens and Crete only: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...areNostrum.jpg

It is a good map! I am using it to reference what cities the Italians own.

[Eivind IV]

Sorry, seem to have cross posted, I just edited my post with a map for Italian cities.

And if my opinion count for anything, it might be more apropriate to give the Italians control of the DAK, according to the Romanian presedence. And maybe Bulgaria could be merged with Romania?