The Thirty Years War

[battosai]

Swedish musketeers with a corporal.

[battosai]

Swedish Dragoons.

[battosai]

Cuirassiers from Livland/Sweden/Finland.

[battosai]

Attacking Swedish cavalry in the Great Battle of Lützen.

[curtsibling]

Nice scans!

I like the one with the armoured pistolier, who seems to have been bestowing some 'good justice' on the poor buggers in the background!

[McMonkey]

Battosai
The whole game concept sounds very exciting. The 30 years war is one of my favourites! The map looks excellent. What programe do you use to get your 23,000sq map? I like making large maps but usually take the 32,000sq map of Imperialism 1870 and delete the terrain using the map editor. Would like to find out how to make maps to fit!
Hope you find the units you need! Keep it up!

[battosai]

My basis were the excellent tool "MapEdit 2.0" and a detailled bitmap of Europe optimized to be converted to a Civ2map via MapEdit. Both can be found at Mercator's page.

[Eivind IV]

MapEdit is a must for any mapmaker!

[fairline]

Originally posted by battosai
Some inspiration for anyone who wants to fill the lack of early 16th century unit graphics (fairline? ).

Sure - I plan to make some new 30YW/ECW anyway units to replace my sh1tty old ones. I need to finish a few oustanding requests first.

[battosai]

Wonderful. I will finish my unit list soon to give you some more useful foundation together with the pics above.

[Von Bert]

I love that 1600 era too ! have nice job !
I'll try post u some units i got.. i think some can be somehow converted from COSSACKS.. nice pikemen and musketeers there..

Some idea that u may include can be:
- pillage : was one of the typical war-tactics of the era..so u may try give it some "evidence".

- plague: still running over europe

- religion: protestan vs catholic.. but i dunno how to make it in the game

- Tercios : the spanish "powerful" square of pikeman
- Sweden Cavalry: famous for their charge.. instead of fire/reload tactics of Reiter
- Sweden light artillery: detached to Rgt level.
- Leaders ? why not give some space to Gustav Adolph, Wallenstein, Tilly, Christian of Danemark, Pappenheim..
- No naval battles: naval units can be reduced to the minimum i think..

Anyway.. sorry 4 all this non -asked ideas...
Happy to help/play/test ASAP!
Roberto

[Von Bert]

HELP !!!!
can somebody tell me .. HOW TO POST A NEW THREAD HERE ?

I can find the button... :S
I wish present my scenario...the first.. i wanna do it for the decade of CIV2 ...

[fairline]

At the bottom of the last post on a page there's a button called 'new thread'.

What's your scenario about?

[Von Bert]

Thanks FAIRLINE.. but in this page i could not see the 'new thread' buttton.. :S
Im definetly stupid i suppose..

Anyway..4 BATTOSAI : ABOUT 1600/30 YW .. last night i checked a scenario called "1655" (great northern war) and found VERY NICE UNITS THERE !!

My scenario ??
Will be something as:
"THE RISE AND FALL OF TEUTONIC ORDER"
From 1200 to 1500 .. mainly based for teutonic, but i ll try multiplayer version too.
Nations?
1)Teutonic order
2) Prussian Tribes
3) Lithuanian
4) Poland
5) Russia
6) Danish/swedish
7) Tartar/Golden Horder

I would love to post a new theread about .. and i will do when i ll find the button..
.. and.. surely i would love to find people interested in share ideas, test, give advice.. whatever..
Im collecting ideas, units, terrains , since very very long time .. and i also would love to post and share..

btw.. what is people designing for ?
CIV2 MGE , or TOT ... I just found MGE last year.. and depsite i got TOT too.. i found MGE more simple..
but .. if nobody plays MGE anymore.. i suppose i must start again for TOT ! :S

anyway.. a great salute/thanks to everybody (still) here !!!
1997-2007... Happy birthday CIV2 !

[battosai]

Originally posted by Von Bert
I love that 1600 era too ! have nice job !
I'll try post u some units i got.. i think some can be somehow converted from COSSACKS.. nice pikemen and musketeers there..

These neat cossacks units are not bad indeed. However, the Thirty Years War was mostly a pre-uniform-era. Some excecption might be the Swedish and French "National" armies.

Some idea that u may include can be:
- pillage : was one of the typical war-tactics of the era..so u may try give it some "evidence".

I was about to think of an extra pillage terrain. instead I now prefer to give the the mining possibility to grassland and plains. Mining works only on grassland shield squares. Yet the food consumtion will be such high that one has to decide if to prevent a famine over long time or to produce and support more troops by building a mine on a grassland shield, where an irrigation was before. Every grassland square gets the irrigation improvement. By pillaging them the food support of besieged cities will rapidly shrink.

- plague: still running over europe

Simulated by high pollution.

- religion: protestan vs catholic.. but i dunno how to make it in the game

- simulated by giving colosseums + electricity + communism to the ones and cathedrals or shrines + mystic to the others. Even third, calvinist religion could be possible by this (Netherlands).

- Sweden light artillery: detached to Rgt level.
- Leaders ? why not give some space to Gustav Adolph, Wallenstein, Tilly, Christian of Danemark, Pappenheim..

Only event-occuring, maybe respawners leader will be the only units whcih ignore zocs. So u can't lead a succesful offensive without one. Death or prisoning of a leader could be expansive !

- No naval battles: naval units can be reduced to the minimum i think..

The Dutch at least should have some fun with'em.

to be continued...