ww1 scenario idea

[Broken_Erika]

i'm thinking of making the u.s. entry into the war a researchable tech, i like the unrestricted u-boat idea, mabe if you research it you get a very nice and cheap submarine unit,
but it will end up with your enemy eventually getting the US on their side. Basicly Either britain or germany can research it and it will have great short term benifits but the first one to research it will end up at war with the US. what do you think?

[Broken_Erika]

One more thing, how many ways are there to make nation specific units only avalible to the nation they belong to?
(i really should have found this out when i started, the only nation specific units i have are the dreadnaughts and the infantry,

[N35t0r]

ToT or MGE?

In ToT, AFAIK, you can specify which nations can or can't build each unit (if they have the prequisite tech, that is)

In MGE you need to use techs:

Either make the unit require a civ-specific tech to be built, or make the unit be obsolete by a tech you'll give every other civ but the one who is supposed to use it (Not-XXX techs)

[GePap]

Given that US forces fought under the banner of an overall allied command, US forces should come in as events created units for either the UK or the French, or Both.

[Broken_Erika]

I'm thinking of making Belgium belong to Britain, that way Germany will end up at war with britain if they try to go through belgium. Also, at the start, britains additude towards germany will be "Hostile" their additude towards france will be "uncooperative " annd their additude towards russia will be "Icy", i think this will best represent how the countries will feel about eachother.

[rjmatsleepers]

Originally posted by Broken_Erika
I'm thinking of making Belgium belong to Britain, that way Germany will end up at war with britain if they try to go through belgium. Also, at the start, britains additude towards germany will be "Hostile" their additude towards france will be "uncooperative " annd their additude towards russia will be "Icy", i think this will best represent how the countries will feel about eachother.

You're probably right about the way they felt about each other, but you also need to ensure that there is no separate peace between Germany and either Russia or France. I presume you will have Russia and France allied; similarly Germany and Austria Hungary.

RJM at Sleeper's

[Patine]

Say, Erika, do you have a beta copy of your unit graphics for storm troops and US infantry (neither appear on your units.gif)? If so, could you please post them?

[GePap]

The UK should begin at war with Germany, or allied to France (if not Russia)- it would be too easy for a German player to smash directly at France while ignoring the diplomatic problems of hitting through Belgium, specially if at the end they might be able to pull off an allience with the Uk vs, say, Russia- This is likely if there are rail lines amongst which the human player can shift forces down from belgium straight into the central front.

[Broken_Erika]

i intend to make the area of france that borders with germany have a lot of fortresses and hoardes of french troops, which would take massive amounts of troops and equipment to take. And going through belgium will be the only way to knock france out of the war without losing half of germany's army, and germany's forces will start on the belgian border anyways, and belgium will be poorly defended, also, a northern part of france will be poorly defended, so the german forces can either hit france directly and lose lots of troops trying to get through french fortifications, or they can go through belgium and hit france where it really hurts and make a grab at paris

[GePap]

Originally posted by Broken_Erika
i intend to make the area of france that borders with germany have a lot of fortresses and hoardes of french troops, which would take massive amounts of troops and equipment to take. And going through belgium will be the only way to knock france out of the war without losing half of germany's army, and germany's forces will start on the belgian border anyways, and belgium will be poorly defended, also, a northern part of france will be poorly defended, so the german forces can either hit france directly and lose lots of troops trying to get through french fortifications, or they can go through belgium and hit france where it really hurts and make a grab at paris

Why does the German player have to attack France? If Belgium is British held-France won't move throught there either, will it? So the Germans can sit in the west, and shift their whole forces to hit the Russians fast and knock them out- if the Uk is not necessarily in the war already, then the Germans, with the Austrians and the Ottomans can gang up on the Russians while keeping the French sidelined and contained.

And if Germany is the Computer, will it risk an attack that brings the Uk into the war, or simply throw itself at the French directly, thus killing itself?

For these reasons, I think its better scenerio wise to make a war between Germany and the UK a given, thus making the Schlieffen plan type of assault more palatable for both a computer and human player.

If the game is to allow some diplomatic adventurism, the position of Italy probably makes more sense, since at the beginning of the war it did seem that Italy was in play (as opposed to being an obvious enemy of Austria)

[Broken_Erika]

tech tree sample
Unprotected Cruisers, 4,-2, Ato, Ast, 3, 4 ; AFl
Radio, 5, 1, Bri, nil, 0, 3 ; Alp
Breech Loaders, 3,-2, nil, nil, 3, 0 ; Amp
Frigate Design, 4, 1, nil, nil, 1, 3 ; Ast
Battleship Design, 4,-1, Bri, nil, 2, 3 ; Ato
The Automobile, 6,-1, Bri, nil, 3, 4 ; Aut
Economics, 4, 1, nil, nil, 1, 1 ; Ban
Fabrication, 4, 0, nil, nil, 0, 4 ; Bri
Bronze Working, 6,-1, nil, nil, 0, 4 ; Bro
Public Bars, 5, 0, Ban, nil, 0, 2 ; Cer
Hydrogen Gas, 5,-1, nil, Ban, 1, 3 ; Che
Zeppelin Aircraft, 4,-2, nil, Che, 1, 0 ; Chi
Propeller Aircraft, 4, 1, Chi, Bri, 0, 2 ; CoL
Gattling Gun, 5,-1, Amp, Bri, 3, 0 ; CA
Machine Gun, 5,-1, CA, , 2, 4 ; Cmb
German Empire, 5, 0, no, no, 2, 2 ; Cmn
Killer Furbies, 4, 1, no, no, 3, 4 ; Cmp
Industries, 7,-1, Bri, Ban, 2, 0 ; Csc
Fortress Design, 4, 0, Bri, Amp, 0, 4 ; Cst
Heavy Industries, 4, 0, Csc, Cur, 2, 1 ; Cor
Global Economics, 4, 1, Csc, Alp, 0, 1 ; Cur
British Empire, 5, 1, no, no, 2, 2 ; Dem
Support Ships, 4, 1, Ast, Amp, 2, 1 ; Eco
The Destroyer, 4, 0, Eco, Alp, 2, 4 ; E1
Not Used, 4, 1, no, no, 3, 4 ; E2
Artillery, 4, 0, Amp, Csc, 0, 4 ; Eng
Trench Warfare, 3, 1, Eng, Cst, 3, 2 ; Env

[GePap]

Are those all techs in the game, or those that can be researched?

Some possible others, including event driven ones:

Total War
National Mobilization
War Weariness
Chemical warfare
Tanks
Revolution!
Long Range Bombers
Submarine Warfare
War Bonds
Infiltration Tactics aka Stormtroopers
Convoy System

[Broken_Erika]

I have 5 levels of submarine design
:diesel-electric engien
:the submarine -submarine
:submarine raiders -raider sub
:Unrestricted Sub Warfare - u-boat
:Unlimited U-boat Warfare -hvy u-boat
when you research Unlimited U-boat Warfare, the other side recieves u.s. reinforcements
but you also get a very extra super special sub unit

[Broken_Erika]

where is a good place for the u.s. reinforcements to land?
plus, italy will be cooperative with france, uncooperative with germany, and icy with austria, mabe if austria would cede their holdings in italy then italy would be on their side for sure.

and finally, i need a good map of europe, and i need to make the barbarians at peace with everyone else, (that way spain will stay put, or i can just make spain a big hunk of unuseable land,

[Broken_Erika]

how can i handle romania? they joined the allies in 27-Aug-1916
i think serbia and montenegro will be russian cities with special balkan troops