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[Patine]

@vodkakov: The ship does look great; I think it could be tweaked into an Iroquois. Thanks a lot! Think you could design a vision of near future Californian rebel militiamen? Just use what knowledge you have of modern California and your imagination (though give them M16 or M19's; I doubt even rebel Americans would touch an AK-47).

@Sarsstock: I agree that vodkakov's sub and cruiser (the latter properly tweaked) could be used. Do you have a Canadian Navy shield we could overlay over his British Navy one?

[Sarsstock]

I will take a shot at the California militiaman unit. Also, I will try to make up a Canadian naval unit shield. Anywayas, here is a newstory on how drought is already affecting America today. Who know's how bad it will become in another decade.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&e=8&u=/latimests/itsahistoricdrought

[Patine]

That's a very neat - yet disturbing - newstory. Well, I look forward to seeing the California militiaman and Canadian Naval shield!

[Sarsstock]

Question, should the California militiaman uniform be that of the California National Guard or a completely new design? I'll try it both ways and you can tell me what you think of the result.

[Patine]

I'll wait and see them to judge for sure, but sight-unseen I'm favoring a new uniform. Also, could you try your hand at the First Nations militiaman (I gave some advice on their appearance in the other thread)?

[Patine]

As for an Aboriginal infantry, I'd say, from visuals of the Lubicon Lake and Oka crises, as well as their hunting attire and Aboriginal Canadian chic in general, an infantryman with a red flanel lumberjack coat, camauflage fatigue pants, a red headband, and holding an AK-47.

Here's the text from the other thread I offered as advice on First Nations militia, so you don't have to go digging through that thread.

[Sarsstock]

Okay, how's this for starters? I think this could represent their "militia" units, the volunteer regiments. Nunavut should have their own profesional infantry unit in addition to this I think, a unit that reflects natives who have served in the armed forces and have profesional training.

[Patine]

Looks good so far! Is that shield the Nunavut flag, a real First Nations flag, or a custom one? And, whichever way, could you please post it as a standard city flag? Good one!

[Sarsstock]

Maybe I'll add some white trim and some orange patches. In any case, the Nunavut flag is authentic accept for one aspect, the real nunavut flag is yellow and white with the totem pole inbetween, where as the one i created is yellow and black.

[Sarsstock]

Here is the improved Nunavut Militia unit. I added some white fur trim to the jacket to best resemble the kind of jacket you'd need fighting in the Canadian Northwest. Now the California Militia has a brown army jacket, a red vest, camoflauge pants and a brown police hat of sorts.

Both are armed with the worlds #1 assult rifle, the AK-47. Now, do you have any idea what a possible Canaidan Militia/Vollunteer or Albertan Militia/Vollunteer unit should look like?

[Patine]

I'm thinking Canadian Militia/Volunteer should possibly be dressed in typical Canadian outdoorsman/hunter attire, perhaps being issued C-6's by the Federal gov't. The Albertan/Western Militia/Volunteers should actually look similar, but in different colors (perhaps the flanel jackets so beloved by Canadian hunters could be red for the Canadians and blue for the Albertan/Westerners, if only a play on Liberal and Conservative party colors), and the Western militia should have an AK-47, not a C-6. Two untouched topics: Quebecois militia should kind of resemble almost a SWAT officer, but with a more greenish color, and an AK-47; and militias springing up in the Southern and Southwestern US could wear, if not full cowboy attire, perhaps a kind of 'get-off-my-land' sort of rancher, heavily armed. Those are just some ideas.

[Sarsstock]

I'm not sure Red for the Canadian Militia is a good idea as its already the colour for the Nunavut Militia. Though I suppose in real life many nations use similar enough uniforms as it is.

Now about Quebec, I was thinking about this the other day and I realized there simply won't be enough units in the units.gif if we include so many breakaway nations in North America. Maybe to keep things less complicated we could axe Quebec as a playable civ and simply make it part of Canada. The idea for this scenario was the western seperation anyways.

Any thoughts?

[Sarsstock]

In any case, here are a couple of those "get off o my land" units you described.

[Patine]

The units look great! As for Quebec, I'm a bit trepiditious about axeing them, as in yesterday's paper they were saying the PQ already bringing up sovereignty again. Maybe just give them a unique infantry and riverboat and have them share a few rigged vehicles with the Western Separatists (I think that should fit, assuming we're not seriously having a bikini-clad rollersquad and such). Another alternative is that we could do this whole thing by ToT (I know you work on that game with curtsibling from another thread) and thus we get more unit slots and events space but will likely have to sharpen many (if not all) of these units. Tell me what you think.

[fairline]

The units are directly transferrable to ToT. If you want, you can subsequently increase unit height and colour depth (15/16-bit as opposed to 256-colours). If you want to be really fancy-pants you can make 8-direction or even fully-animated sprites.