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  • #16
    That certainly sounds like a reasonable premise, vodkakov. Could you post a graphic of a one of these Swiftsures if you wouldn't mind. Thanks!

    BTW, did you get my request on the Modern Graphics Showcase?

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    • #17
      Taken from the Royal Navy's website....
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      "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
      "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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      • #18
        ...and
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        "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
        "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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        • #19
          ...finally...
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          "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
          "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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          • #20
            ...and now for some technical data...

            The Swiftsure Class Fact File


            Swiftsure Class (SSN) Fleet Submarine
            Ship Name Pennant No.
            Sovereign S108
            Superb S109
            Sceptre S104
            Spartan S105



            Swiftsure Class SSN Fleet Submarine
            Displacement: 4,900 tonnes (dived)
            Length: 82.9 m
            Beam: 9.8 m
            Draught: 8.5m
            Complement: 116
            Armament: 5 tubes capable of firing:
            Spearfish Torpedoes
            RN Sub Harpoon Missiles
            Tomahawk Missiles
            Sensors: Sonar including Bow, Flank, Active Intercept and Towed Arrays
            Attack and Search Periscopes
            Collision avoidance radar
            Electronic warfare equipment

            The key thing to remember is that British submarines have the diving planes attached to the bow of the boat (subs are always called 'boats' btw) and NOT to the coning tower...
            "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
            "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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            • #21
              I had a go... it's not very good though
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              "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
              "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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              • #22
                Thanks for the data and graphics, vodkakov. The sub does look passable; submarine warfare will likely be a small part of the scen anyway. Thanks a lot!

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                • #23
                  You're welcome, as you can tell, ships/boats aren't my forte
                  Last edited by vodkakov; October 14, 2004, 08:54.
                  "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
                  "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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                  • #24
                    @ Patine: I am deeply sorry for not being able to finish that map now myself. My f***** up real life is consumin my free time at a horrible rate at the moment. I apologise for keeping you waiting for something I can not accomplish before Christmas for sure.

                    I hope anyone else could/would fill that gap for me. Again, I can only apologise

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                    • #25
                      @Patine: Does this one look any better? I'm experimenting...
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                      "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
                      "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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                      • #26
                        @jim panse: I'm sorry to hear that. I hope someone can finish the map, but so far you're the only taker. I might just have to wait for Christmas. Don't worry, though, I know how that situation feels!

                        @vodkakov: The second one is a bit sharper, but the first one has more detailed color contrast (in terms of shapes of black at least). I'll have to choose one, I suppose. As author, which is your favorite?

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                        • #27
                          I'm not really sure, the first one has the better contrast, like you say, but the second looks more like a sub, as they are very dark... I'm not too sure. Part of me reckons I should just copy some sea terrain and use that, as that's all you'd ever see of a sub
                          "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
                          "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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                          • #28
                            I think, ultimately, I'll go with the second; it does look more like a sub in the end. Thanks for both graphics, though. BTW, know anyone whose good at maps to finish this North America map?

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                            • #29
                              Thanks, I appreciate the input. BTW do you want a Type 42 Destroyer? I had a play with fairline's amazing AEGIS graphic... I added the radar domes and changed the midships a bit.
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                              "You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by, Sneak home and pray you'll never know The hell where youth and laughter go." -- Siegfried Sassoon, 'Suicide in the Trenches'
                              "What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." - Oscar Wilde

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                              • #30
                                Well I definatly prefer the first submarine posted, and I do love that AEGIS Cruiser. I wonder if it could be manipulated into an Iroquois Class Frigate?

                                Anyways Patine, I wouldn't worry for now about Steph not being able to finish the map, I say we just work on the units and the icons and cities for now. I'm still tinkering with those city styles, hopefully I will have something good to show ya soon.
                                Last edited by Sarsstock; October 15, 2004, 12:11.

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