Unit Graphics Needed

[Patine]

Sorry I took so long to respond, but my computer's on the fritz (I had to actually format and restore it). I'll have to start on my scenario again from scratch, as well as collect the graphics library I had. If anyone has copies of old Patine scenarios whose threads have dropped of (notably my Mexican Revolution and Contemporary Middle East ones), please let me know, as I'd like copies of those. Thanks, and I appreciate everyone on this thread's support, though the scenario will be delayed.

[Patine]

Hey, while you're working on that terrain graphic and .WAV file, curt (at least I hope you are), could you (or anyone else who knows for that matter) what the names of the three major US Bases in South Vietnam as of '66 were. I've got most of my progress back quite quickly, so if you delayed the graphic and .WAV files on account of my bad news, please feel free to post them (if they just aren't done yet, that's fine). Thanks a lot!

[curtsibling]

Sorry to hear about the computer, dude!

I hope this Motorboat wav is any use?

[vodkakov]

Originally posted by typhoon
Look in the latest page of the WW2-1979 Units thread, some chap named vodkakov made quite a comprehensive Vietnam units collection, and I'm sure you'll find most of what you're looking for in there

Thanks for the mention To save you looking for them, here're my US Vietnam Units:
From left to right:
Top Row: 1st AirCav with M14; 1st AirCav with M16; 1st AirCav with M60; USMC with M14; USMC with M16; USMC with M60; US Army with M14; US Army with M16; US Army with M60
Bottom Row: Green Beret; Studies and Observation Group (SOG); Marine Force Recon; Ranger; Airbourne; 1st AirCav Commander; USMC Commander; US Army Commander; General Westmoreland

...and the modified SOG shield:

Can't wait to see a new Vietnam scenario

[vodkakov]

Re: US bases in Vietnam

Originally posted by Patine
Hey, while you're working on that terrain graphic and .WAV file, curt (at least I hope you are), could you (or anyone else who knows for that matter) what the names of the three major US Bases in South Vietnam as of '66 were. I've got most of my progress back quite quickly, so if you delayed the graphic and .WAV files on account of my bad news, please feel free to post them (if they just aren't done yet, that's fine). Thanks a lot!

I think the best ones to include would be Danang/Da Nang (I Corps.), Cam Ranh Bay (II Corps.), Long Binh or Bien Hoa (III Corps.). This should give a fairly well distributed number of bases throughout South Vietnam for the US forces. Danang airbase was where the first conventional US troops landed in 1965. Cam Ranh Bay contained deep water berths for US supply ships. I think Bien Hoa was an airbase and Long Binh was more of a logistics centre. It depends what you want to represent. Pleiku was also pretty important as a Special Forces base. However, I think that Danang and Cam Ranh Bay should definitely be included.

A map of South Vietnam (as well as loads of very detailed information about US bases) can be found here:

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Vietnam/basedev/chapter10.htm#m1

I hope I was of help.

[vodkakov]

I was playing around and made a generic US 'grunt', credit should really go to GoPostal though, as I only edited his AirCav unit.

[Patine]

Sorry I took so long responding, vodkakov. I just wanted to thank you for your help. I hope to make this Vietnam War scenario at least outshine my previous attempt.

[curtsibling]

I think you should use a low level of riot factor in the cosmic
section of rules.txt, and maybe also use temples as US army garrisons.

Also events that remind the player of problems back home with civil unrest, etc.

This could represent 1960's culture and fluctuating support for the war?

[vodkakov]

Originally posted by Patine
Sorry I took so long responding, vodkakov. I just wanted to thank you for your help. I hope to make this Vietnam War scenario at least outshine my previous attempt.

You're welcome, I'm glad to have been of service I can't wait to see the end product.

[Patine]

I do need one suggestion, actually. How should I penalize the US player for events-wise for capturing a North Vietnamese city in North Vietnam, given the no-fire, no-flight rule? Any suggestions?

[GoPostal]

You could use the 'kill civ' command, and an event saying they were relieved of command.

[jim panse]

Say, do you need any other units? I think I could provide one or another unit more ...

[vodkakov]

Originally posted by GoPostal
You could use the 'kill civ' command, and an event saying they were relieved of command.

I like that idea. All the Vietnam scenarios that I've played never take into account that the US forces were very restricted in what they could do, like not being able to pursue VC/NVA into Cambodia and so on (well, at least for the early stages of the war, I think they later let them bomb within a few miles of the border, but the VC/NVA just moved their supply bases a little bit further into Cambodia).

[SetuSinger]

A kingdom for a technical uptodate vietnam-scen!

[Patine]

Thanks for the idea. I'll make sure it, or something like it, is brought into the scen (especially good since I'm running the US and South Vietnam as separate players, but with an unbreakable alliance).