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  • For 1919 and beyond

    What do you think of these quotes from that S&T mag article on a 1919 offensive? This is probably old hat to the Panzermeisters out there.

    Though enormous and heaviliy armed, the first German tank, the A7V, was too cumbersome and unreliable to be an effective weapon.... The German LKI, LKII, and LKIII tanks were, in many ways, an outgrowth of the British Mark A medium tank. The LKI was a prototype light tank with a rotating machinegun turret. The LKII refined the design and would have featured either a forward firing 57mm gun or a turreted machinegun. An overly ambitious production order was placed for 580 of the tanks, but it is certain at least some of the vehicles would have been ready to oppose the allies in 1919, leading to perhaps major tank-versus-tank battles.

    The LKIII was to have been even further advanced, with a turret mounted 57mm gun.
    LK II
    A pair of links:
    Achtung Panzer!
    German Armour of WWI (E. Dyer)
    El Aurens v2 Beta!

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    • Thank you fairline, I wasn't aware of the poor performance of the A7V (though with that design, I was already suspicious...)

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      The site above posted how many of the Mark series tanks were produced between June 1915 and July 1918.

      And with the artillery, shut up I just like the armored vehicles
      -rmsharpe

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      • Hmmm, what do ya say Curt? Think you might include this hypothetical tank? Or is the game balanced enough with the German Storm Troopers?

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        • I've been considering a WWI-esque scenario myself, maybe I can use it
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          • Wonderful Ft 17 Fairline..I think i will use it for my scenerio.
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            • I just might keep the STs as the tank equivalent.

              Also the massive Krupps gun is a match for any iron wagon!

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              • Here's the Mark IV Curt - plain camo, British markings and a captured German version.

                Just a thought: if you really must have German tanks, how about an event that gives the Germans captured Mark IVs conditional on the loss of British tanks?

                As Case said, the Germans fielded more captured tanks than their own designs. Having said that, they used very few tanks of any kind, so you are probably better off sticking with the stormtroop / heavy arty idea.

                Boco: interesting German tank sites. That light tank is almost a direct copy of a Whippet. I wonder how many they could have produced in 1919, though? The Geman high command seemed to be almost entirely disinterested in producing armour.
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                http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.ph...ory:Civ2_Units

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                • Wow. Shock and awe indeed. Those are some of the most awesome tanks I've ever seen
                  -rmsharpe

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                  • Yeah, great tanks

                    Just a quibble - the tanks look larger then they are in life. I was astonished a few years ago when the Australian War Memorial put its' Mk IV on display: while I was expecting one of the hulking monsters from wartime propaganda, in reality the tank was quite small, and was actually much smaller then the hull of the Centurian tank on display next to it!
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                    • Thanks

                      Originally posted by Case
                      Just a quibble - the tanks look larger then they are in life.
                      They aren't supposed to be in scale with WW2 or modern unit gfx - the thing is the Mark IV tanks were much bigger than either a Whippet or FT-17, which was a comparatively small 2-man tank. As I drew the FT-17 rather large, I've had to draw the Mark IV bigger (although still not in scale).

                      Apologies for gratuitously posting something I've just posted in the graphics thread, but hopefully this will illustrate. The Whippet was 20ft long, the Mark IV 26ft and the FT-17 a puny 16ft.
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                      • Fairline, I know you hear this often, but you are my God!
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                        • *smelling salts take effect*

                          Wow! Fairline - these are just too great for coherent words!

                          The final gleam is now applied to the units!

                          That's many a pint I owe you now!
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                          • Doing events at the moment - the final graphic task is done...The cities!
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                            • Wow! Nice cities, comrade

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                              • Originally posted by fairline
                                They aren't supposed to be in scale with WW2 or modern unit gfx - the thing is the Mark IV tanks were much bigger than either a Whippet or FT-17, which was a comparatively small 2-man tank. As I drew the FT-17 rather large, I've had to draw the Mark IV bigger (although still not in scale).

                                Apologies for gratuitously posting something I've just posted in the graphics thread, but hopefully this will illustrate. The Whippet was 20ft long, the Mark IV 26ft and the FT-17 a puny 16ft.
                                Good point. The Australian War Memorial also has an FT-17 on display, and it's smaller then my car! (which is a rather wimpy Mitsubishi Mirage Hatchback).
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